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1 Journo quote
2 Hangul error?
3 Reccuring actors
4 About Reccuring actors
5 Astronaut career
6 About Astronaut career
7 Fair use rationale for Image:VengeanceTrilogy DVD.jpg
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Ganghyejung.jpg
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Jsa 14b.jpg
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Jsa still12.jpg
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Woojina.jpg
12 Recurring cast in Park Chan-Wook's films

[edit] Journo quote

The quote in the article, "in your film, Why is the vengeance repeating?", sounds like it is a slightly dodgy translation. I went looking for who quoted it, but couldn't find anything. Can this quote be attributed to someone? If not, or if it is paraphrased, we can correct the grammar and lose the quotation marks. Gram 11:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hangul error?

Hi,

is the hangul for his name correct? the "wook" part of chan-wook seems incorrect to me. it should just be 욱 in my opinion, not 욱| as currently listed.

to support my view, here is a bio page from a korean movie site that lists him as i have noted above:

http://www.hancinema.net/korean_Park_Chan-wook.php

because i believe this is just a simple entry error (i noticed the chinese characters have the same mistake also), i have made the appropriate changes to both. if i am in error, please contact me.

[edit] Reccuring actors

The table's fine, but I don't really see the point of the "Other films" column. Lots of these actors have been in many other Korean films that are not listed, none of which have anything to do with Park Chan-wook. Also, what happens when Park's next films come out? How many columns can fit onto the table? According to an interview with Park, Song Gang-Ho is apparently going to play the lead in Evil Live(s). Finally, I would suggest that "Cut" is specified rather than simpy "Three... Extremes" in the column header. Gram 10:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Reccuring actors

I am the one who made this table in Old Boy article. But I've found that it's now in PCW article. I'm fine with it. But somebody has changed 'other films' column. In my first table 'other films' meant short films of PCW, not the films of other directors. So I fully support what is told by Gram.

[edit] Astronaut career

I have added a small section and a link about his astronaut career. He nearly was the first Korean in space. Hektor 15:17, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Astronaut career

Sorry, but I deleted the astronaut thing that you wrote in the PCW article. Yes there was a candidate astronaut named Park Chan-Wook, but he is not the movie director. Just same name, differnt person.

Spacefacts entry for Park Chan-wook says "Education at the Aviation Institute; served three years in the armee; graduation as aeronautic engineer; in November 1995 selected; contributor of the South Korean TV station KBS; was scheduled for a mission the the MIR in May/June 1998; currently a successful movie director." and the birth days of both profiles match ??? Even this Russian profile birth date match See. Sorry but we need a little more than your word. Please provide reference. Hektor 18:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
I am Korean. And I'm 100% certain that he is not the astronaut in question. If you should present a reference for a right fact, you could do it, but when it's a wrong fact, you cannot. I'm sorry. But just think about it. He studied the philosophy in the university, he became a movie director when he was 30 years old. He made his second film in 1997 when he is 35 years old. Do you think it is realistic to be a astronut in 1998?
I have provided a reference: Spacefacts entry for Park Chan-wook here. Plus a Russian entry. You haven't provided anything but what's in your brain. Hektor 10:18, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Those are very interesting, but they don't seem to meet the definition of a reliable source. It is, at the very least, unusual that this has received no attention in the Korean or international press, given Park's high profile. Further, the only thing that seems to match between the two histories is the fact that Park is now a successful movie director; but isn't it possible that the website authors were confused? Or perpetrating an amusing hoax? Please provide a more fully credible source. -- Visviva 11:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

The living persons policy obliges us to be particularly careful here. I am able to glean from the net that there *was* a KBS reporter named Park Chan-wook who almost went to Mir in the mid-90s. However, no reliable source seems to connect that PCW with the director. Given the number of director-PCW interviews and profiles around the net, it's strange that this is mentioned so seldom (or rather, never). Given, further, that 박찬욱 is not an uncommon given name, it seems most parsimonious to assume that they are two different people with the same name, and that the website authors (and whoever added that bit of trivia to IMDB) are confused. -- Visviva 11:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Update: There is still a reporter named Park Chan-wook working for KBS. Definitely not the movie director. Here's a report he filed last week from Beijing: [1] And doesn't this picture look familiar? Based on this, I think we are obliged to put the kibosh on the astronaut thing. Pity, really. I wonder if Park Chan-wook (reporter) meets WP:BIO? -- Visviva 11:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, beeing one of the spacefacts-team, I first have to say, that the spacefacts photo shows not the same as the Russian Site und the KBS-photo. This two photos show the same man. So we may not be right and we will delete the newest photo and that information, that he is now a movie director. That does not mean, that our website had the wrong information, but we can't give in the moment a correct source. Sorry for the confusions. --Eastfrisian 19:33, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:VengeanceTrilogy DVD.jpg

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The image rationale has now been amended to specify where the image is used and why. The "di-disputed fair use rationale" template has therefore been removed from the image page. Gram123 19:13, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ganghyejung.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Jsa 14b.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Woojina.jpg

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[edit] Recurring cast in Park Chan-Wook's films

It may be a fact that he has used the same actors more than once in his films, but there are many directors that do this. Unless it's been commented on in reliable sources, I believe that drawing any conclusions or placing any significance on it is original research. In any case, I don't think there is any need for such a large table illustrating the point, and the comparison with Kim Ji-woon is certainly something that should be referenced. PC78 (talk) 14:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think any conclusions are being drawn from it, but I agree that having a big table on the article makes the fact appear more significant than it is, and is wholly unneccesary.

The table could be replaced by a simple paragraph, stating that several people have appeared in multiple films directed by Park, perhaps noting key individuals, and as PC78 says, without implying anything significant about his use of these actors, unless the information is sourced.

I'm sure I read somewhere that Song Kang-ho is a good friend of the director, for example, and that he tries to find parts for him when possible. If an interview or similar could be found to this effect, then fair enough.

As PC78 mentions, many directors re-use the same actors, particularly in countries where the film industry is relatively small. For the same reason, two well known directors from the same comparitively small film industry using the same actors is, frankly, irrelevant. Furthermore, the casting may not have been entirely the decision of those directors. Gram123 (talk) 15:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I've tagged it as unencyclopedic, then. If nothing else the table needs to be trimmed down. Honestly, there's nothing significant about the fact that Yoo Ji-tae starred in Oldboy and later had a brief non-speaking cameo in Lady Vengeance. PC78 (talk) 12:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If it's up for any kind of vote, I say remove it. Anything significant about certain cast should be covered in the text, and a filmography table with a "Cast" field (see Kim Ki-young for an example) would partially make up for this table. Dekkappai (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

What about something like this? We'll adopt the model of the paragraph directly under the table, list a few of the notable people, PERHAPS list what films they were in? What does everyone think of that? RecentlyAnon (talk) 01:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)