Talk:Parish of Clontarf (Roman Catholic)
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A lot of the content on this page is irrelevant to Clontarf and should be deleted particularly the section 'The Union Parish of Clontarf, 1829-1879'
I assume the above unsigned comment is intended to be humnourous? The page is about the Parish of Clontarf, and, notably between 1829 and 1879, this is not just the same as the district of that name. The material in the section mentioned is entirely about the Parish of Clontarf, which at that time extended from Glasnevin to Bull Island. And it includes significant developments in the core Clontarf parish. Twilson r 00:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
This article is not about 'Clontarf Parish (Roman Catholic)' but is about three parishes. A more appropriate title would be 'Roman Catholic Parishes of Clontarf'. Not moving for now but may come back to it--Hotm481 16:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- There seems a surprising amount of activity around religion in Clontarf. The newly-registered user above has raised an interesting point - but not grounds for a move, perhaps redirects, or new articles, as reading the article, it is clearly about a community which existed as a single thing from the 1100's until the 20th century (albeit sometimes within a group); the three modern parishes are the end of the story, and one way to deal with this would be to have a paragraph on each. Tom 83.250.204.91 16:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Separate articles
Maybe the best answer for the modern parishes and then this article, which is very interesting, can be left alone. Some element seems to be trying, including use of multiple IDs and an IP (which to be fair identifies itself as J Patten) to take Parish of Clontarf solely for the CoI. Cheeky given the RC parish's rather long history:-) And what's with the insertion of clumsily worded CoI refs everywhere? No offence but the same could be done with RC refs across most of Ireland.209.85.136.136 16:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it is fair to take the view that both the RC and C of I parishes have their roots in the original parish dating from the 1100's. They both came out of the same thing. As has been pointed out by a WP editor it is fair to use terms such as Parish of Clontarf if there is only one page one covering a Clontarf Parish. The fact that there is more than one now changes things. --JPatten 20:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- OK so, Hotm481 and all, will do, each of the three modern parishes coming up. I suppose a good thought in the end, as one item:one article is a clean rule. Will give the folks below a call for more. Twilson r 19:58, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The article looks very interesting congratulations --JPatten 20:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you! I was inspired in part by your sterling work over the way. And re. the comment just slightly above, I agree absolutely re. the shared origins. As I noted, "sometime between this point - around 1536 ... - and the early years of the reign of Elizabeth I, there emerged two Parishes of Clontarf, one in the Roman Catholic Church, one in the Church of Ireland." And I do note the positive approach of the local CoI tea when the RC parish began to put itself back together. I must say that this is a grand area of historical exploration. Twilson r 08:09, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
