Talk:Parham Attack

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(12-02-06) additional links : http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/files/more_qh5_analysis.htm, http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/posts/1114752346.shtml

I'm not sure this link belongs in this article. Maybe it should go in an article on the Matrix system or on Bernard Parham? --Malathion 03:35, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

I see your point, in that the article is not primarily about the Parham Attack as such -- so, particularly since there's no Wikipedia article on Parham, I moved the link to the article up into the text so that it is a link from "Bernard Parham." Hope that helps. Krakatoa 08:36, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

By the way: I read somewhere that Nakamura said he played the opening on the suggestion of Jason Doss, another Indiana chessplayer who I presume is related to Parham. I'll see if I can find a source for that. --Malathion 09:33, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Jason Doss as a child used to study Qh5 and the chess matrix from Bernie. The tournament scene in Indiana sees a great deal of Qh5 from its younger players, thanks to Parham. Occasionally a younger student will be caught off guard by the move 1. e4 nf6 2. Qh5? ... always good for a laugh. I recommend looking at the moves 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nc6 3. Bc4 g6 4. Qf3 f5!? if white has never seen this black will get an amazing position, but as far as being sound? - Falsemate 03:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Since you edited your comment after I posted mine, I removed it. --Ryan Delaney talk 09:43, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

...Nf6? After the variation 1.e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Be7 Parham will play 4. d3 ... He plans on dropping the Queen to g3 and putting the Bishop on e2 to prevent any kind of pin on the e4 pawn with the king. Black will remain a pawn down with difficulties catleing long, and whites pieces are all pointed at the Kingside. A common variations is 1.e4 e5 2. Qh5 Nf6 3. Qxe5+ Be7 4. d3 Nc6 5. Qg3 0-0 6. Be2 with the threat of Bh6 as Nh5 can no longer hold. (Falsemate 02:49, 21 October 2005 (UTC))

I'd be happy if he would log on to FICS sometime and play vs Shredder in this line. Shredder thinks 5...0-0 is a big mistake, because 5...d5 leaves black with a big advantage. --Ryan Delaney talk 03:25, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2. Bd6!?

This move is something I've been looking at for a while. It's true, the Bishop is put on a weakish square, but it means that the Q can go to e7 without blocking it and that the N can go to f6 with tempo. For example: 1. e4 e5 2. Qh5 Bd6!? 3. Bc4 Qe7 4. Nf3 Nf6 5. Qh4 Bc5 6. Qg3 d6 7. Qxg7? Rg8 8. Qh6 Bxf2+! 9. Kf1 Rg6 0-1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.226.77.23 (talk) 15:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Until we have a source for Bd6 it would be a problem of no original research. I setup the board and looked at this it doesn't seem a very good idea. After Bd6 the bishop has to move again later at the cost of a tempo. In the line given Qg3 is an illogical waste of move having moved the queen to h4 on the previous move. 5. Qg5 would seem a more consistent move when 5...Nxe4 is met with Qxg7 with advantage to white. 5...O-O and White can play 6. d3, 6. O-O or 6. Nc3 when Black can't break in the center until the Bishop is moved from d6. SunCreator (talk) 18:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)