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In Japan, panties (pantsu) are commonly depicted as being a highly flirtatious, naughty element to a female's persona.

I thought it was pronounced "pantii".

"In Europe, panties are called knickers"... shouldn't it be "are also known as"... firstly there is more than one language in europe, but also in brittish english they are called knickers among other things, such as panties or pants (confusingly for americans)

Contents 1 Pictures 2 Knickers vs Panties 3 References in popular culture 4 Disposable panties 5 Panties in the 21st century 6 Most commonly worn? 7 Types

[edit] Pictures

This article needs some pictures of women wearing panties. Not only for plain enjoyment, but because it makes sense to show the reader how they're actually used and how they look when being used. For every article, it is best to create the page as if your explaining the topic to aliens. In other words, create the article so someone who has no idea what the topic is can understand completely once he/she is finished.

[edit] Knickers vs Panties

Knickers vs Panties: I maintain that there is a difference.

Though (in Britain) the term < Knickers > has remained in fashion to describe female underwear, including modern brief styles such as thongs, the term stretches backwards in time and generally has the "feel" (no pun) of a fuller garment with considerable weight and looseness of fit (hence the somewhat sexually-loaded "ring" about this term, when spoken).

The term < panties > is generally more modern and describes briefer garments that became fashionable circa the 1960s. In fact, this term has run out of date in Britain and is more associated with the USA and elsewhere. Fetishists possibly use this term, more than do modern wearers.

Note: for Britain, I preferred the term < pants > (before its use became corrupted as a modern slang adjective), as I find the -ies ending somewhat familiar and twee.

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81.109.65.216 20:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)Nicholas P. Anstis

The knickers article has a fair amount on usages other than as a synonym for "panties" so I think that keeping it as a separate article is better than merging. 86.129.152.82 10:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

What Nicolas says is true. Knickers are just general women's underwear. Panties has connotations of sexy underwear. Anyway, don't merge knickers into panties at all.--Him and a dog 21:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References in popular culture

This section seems to have been written by a fan of asian culture. Seems out of place in this article and should be removed. Anyone opinions?

No objections.213.48.73.89 19:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't merge the two words... Whilst they might be synonomous, they have completely different usages.. Panties is an almost exclusively American term, and Knockers is used in the UK, and UK derived English speaking countries. To merge the two words would be like stating that American English is the same as UK English, which it's definitely not.. I don't want to see my language lost to ..ize and I certainly don't want to start talking about panties. I'm sure that our American cousins are just as precious about the spelling of colour without a U.. These are separate languages, let's keep the two separate please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.202.22.29 (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Disposable panties

I followed Disposable panties from an article about Postnatal, thinking I will see something about baby diapers instead it directed me to ladies panties. Is that right?--TheEgyptian 17:35, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Panties in the 21st century

Panties is generally referred to in the 21st century as a way of describing femal underwear, not both male and female so merging it to include it in a unisex general article is not accurate. (♠Taifarious1♠) 08:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Most commonly worn?

"String bikini panties are the most commonly worn type in the United States"? I doubt that. This may refer to thongs, which are popular among young women, but I would guess some type of brief is the most common overall. I'll try to research, maybe there are some sales figures by type somewhere. Gr8white 23:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately the market research figures are available only at a price of $2000 or so. All I was able to find was a couple of informal web polls which though not definitive certainly don't support the contention above. e.g. http://www.misterpoll.com/results.mpl?id=2239242001 - thongs most popular among younger women, briefs among older - string bikinis at bottom or next to bottom for every age group. Gr8white 05:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Types

The section on types could use a major overhaul. There isn't even a mention of the classic brief, which has fallen out of favor but is still advertised extensively (and probably worn mostly by older women). Also, "high-cut" is not the same as "control top" as implied; "high-cut" usually refers to a type of brief that is cut higher on the sides than the classic brief (roughly equivalent to "French cut"). This is one of (if not the) most popular styles in the US and elsewhere, and has nothing to do with hiding obesity. (Control-top briefs are usually considered shapewear.)

Basic types IMO:

Brief

Classic (Full)

High-Cut (French-Cut)

Boyleg

Hipster

Bikini

String?

Tanga

Thong

G-String

These may overlap to some extent. Gr8white 01:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, I rewrote the part describing the various types. Gr8white 05:16, 2 December 2007 (UTC)