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Contents 1 Indian Kingdoms and Borders, 600 AD 2 Page protected 3 Edit war reported 4 Black magic 5 Removed POV Template

[edit] Indian Kingdoms and Borders, 600 AD

I have 2 different source maps for the borders of India, circa 600 AD, and they both show major differences. The first map's source is listed, I don't remember my source for the 2nd map. Also, looking at the www.WorldHistory.com map of India in 586 AD, it is also different from these 2 maps. Which of these maps shows the correct borders for India in 600 AD? Thomas Lessman (talk) 15:32, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page protected

Hi folks,

I've protected this page for a week due to edit warring. Please use the time to discuss what should and should not be on the page, and when the protection expires, please ensure you maintain civility and do not use edit summaries to carry on discussions or accusations of bad behaviour. Stifle (talk) 15:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit war reported

The recent edits to this article concern me. The article page was blocked for one week to allow you good people time to resolve your differences civilly. Instead, nothing was posted on this talk page at all. So now the block has been lifted, what do you do? You start back with your edit war and name calling. I have reported this to the administrators, who will be along to lookin on things and take whatever action. But before they arrive, I want to say a few things.

I'm sorry to have to say this to you all, but you are all behaving like a bunch of children all wanting their own way. I am sure that you each want the best for the article, but that is not the impression you are giving! Please, I ask of each of you editors, please read the Wikipedia article on Assuming good faith. Then,please look at the edits that the others are doing, but instead of taking the stance that they are wrong, look at the edits with the assumption that the editor wants to improve the article.

Having done that, before you make any further edits on the page,please discuss IN A CIVIL MANNER on this talk page what exactly it is about their edit that you disagree with. But before you do discuss, read Wikipedia's stance on Civility. When you've read the article, go back and read it again.

Now, when someone posts a comment in disagreement with your stance on the article, write a response on Microsoft Word, or the text editor of your choice, and save it. Do not post it on the talkpage yet. Wait 24 hours, and then re-read your response. By then, you will hopefully have cooled down. Now, edit out any comments that could be concidered inflammatory or insulting. Only then should you copy and paste the text onto this page.

We all want Wikipedia to improve - insulting each other is not the way to do it. Please calm down. Thank you. StephenBuxton (talk) 21:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Another article I thorougly recommend you all read - and make use of - is the dispute resolution page. StephenBuxton (talk) 22:04, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

As the protecting admin (with no particular views on the current dispute either way), I'd just like to second Stephen's comments. You need to discuss this *here* without flaming each other. Keep this up and blocks *will* be handed out on both sides. Comments in edit summaries such as this, this and this are completely unacceptable. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a bit curious why at least two groups would get into an edit war over an article about ancient kingdom: does this extinct state have some value to modern groups? If so, a section about its role in modern times might not only diffuse some of the conflict over this article -- but help the average reader understand the importance of this kingdom. -- llywrch (talk) 06:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I had a cursory look. People from two castes seem to want to establish that they're the descendants of Pandya Kings. I come from this region and've previously heard of such claims from one of these castes, but the other claim rings new to me. My suggestion would be that any of or both the claims can be allowed only if someone cites a reliable source. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 07:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

A reliable source for the statement that these two castes trace their origins to these kings, or one that shows their origins are from these kings? I hope you mean the second, even though we may disagree what would be a reliable source. In any case, at least now this dispute has a context. -- llywrch (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black magic

This sounds like it has more viewpoint than cogency: "Many chiefs keeping up the trend of that age all over the world, were not only corrupt and irresponsible but also displayed their evil tendencies when they allowed and supported the revival of obscure and occult practices(like black magic and manipulation) that had stayed strictly banned since early pallava period." But what is the "black magic and manipulation" that they refer to? 70.15.116.59 (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed POV Template

Removed POV template showing the kingdoms of Northern India as Empires, and kingdoms of Southern India as dynasties. No evidence as to whether all Northern kingdoms were Empires, while all Southern kingdoms were dynasties. Ashoka kingdom of Northern India is an Empire since it has controlled everything in South Asia outside its boundaries accept for Tamil Nadu, Kerala, and Sri Lanka. While the Cholas of Southern India is also an Empire stretching from South India to Sri Lanka, Maldives, Malaysia, Sumatra, and Java with its Navies. "Middle Kingdoms of India" template shows only bias towards Indo-Aryan kingdoms, and also making it seem that the Indian Union existed for thousands of years. Wiki Raja (talk) 06:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)