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[edit] Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to the Aviation WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to aviation.

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the experienced project members, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 15:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Sydney - Help with Eastern Suburbs Railway

Hi PalawanOz - thanks for joining WP Sydney. I noticed that you said you were interested on contributing articles for the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney. I'm looking for someone to take some photos of the railway stations on the Eastern Suburbs line - at the moment we don't have photos of either Kings Cross or Edgecliff stations - if you have a camera and are able to take shots similar to those in the infobox at Bondi Junction railway station, Sydney any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! JRG 10:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the Kings X photo. Looks great. JRG 13:09, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of St John Ribbon

Hello! Thanks for putting the ribbon of the VOSJ on the page. I'm not sure it is entirely necessary, though, as the actual ribbon is shown immediately above it in the photograph. Would you be terribly offended if I removed your addition?--Eva bd 12:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate images uploaded

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[edit] Thanks for your efforts

I just thought I'd drop you a quick note to express appreciation for the excellent work that you have been doing on the various decorations and medals articles. The lack of consistent Australia coverage has always been a notable gap, thanks to you it is substantially filled. I've been rather distracted from this area recently, but Canada is the next big one for work I think.

Cheerio, Xdamrtalk 09:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the work you did to an article i created. Crested Penguin 03:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Project tags

Hi - on one of the medal page talk pages I recently put both the Oz military and the Oz milhist tags - I realised after that I might be over doing it - have you any clues as to whether if its already an orders project tagged article - whether the duplication is useful or not helpful? cheers SatuSuro 01:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that - trawling a number of cat pages at the moment - will keep that in mind - thanks for responding! cheers SatuSuro 04:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Btw please feel free to modify the tags that I might have placed on the orders/cat pages - and if you could it would be much appreciated if you find one I havent uncovered that is definitely an Australian provenance - please could you throw a {{WP Australia|class=NA}} tag on it if it is a cat page thanksSatuSuro 12:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] unblock request

This user's request to have the autoblock on his/her IP address lifted has been DECLINED.

Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "ReflectTheFacts". The reason given for ReflectTheFacts's block is: "Abusing multiple accounts: Sock of blocked user User:DavidYork71".

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[edit] unblock request - again!!

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Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

There was a miscommunication. You appear to work at the same place as a user who has been banned, which is the reason for the original autoblock. However there are no other similarities, so I have unblocked you. There may be some trouble from the autoblock until I can get that sorted out. Thatcher131 01:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Request handled by: Thatcher131 01:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
It may or may not be unfair, but there is logic in it: You were using the same IP as one of his sockpuppets. —dgiestc 01:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
I work for an Australian government department. Our network runs through a common IP (as best as I understand it). Therefore there are probably about 60,000 people who have this IP address.... given that I am not going anywhere near DavidYork71's areas of 'interest', why would I be accused of being a sockpuppet???

[edit] unblock request - again x 2

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Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s):

Autoblock of 203.10.224.60 lifted or expired. Sorry for the trouble!

Request handled by: – Luna Santin (talk) 05:41, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your have

email SatuSuro 11:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC) apologies - further adhoc emails to clutter the inbox SatuSuro 12:39, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australia Service Medal 1939-45

Hello. I note the title for the above article incorporates the dates 1939-45. Perhaps you may be better informed, but my recollection is that the name of the medal is simply the 'Australia Service Medal' - no dates. My view is that article names should follow the actual medal name as closely as possible; dates should only form a part of the article name if they are a) part of the medal name, or b) needed to disambiguate identically (or nearly identically) named medals (eg the long line of India General Service Medals).

Cheerio, Xdamrtalk 23:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

My recollection doesn't seem to be too faulty after all - both the Medals Yearbook and British Battles and Medals omit the dates in the title.
Xdamrtalk 23:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Star of Temasek categories

Yeah I noticed that feature later, which didnt exist before. We dont have a habit of classifying redirects because of that, but now I know its possible through you! :)--Huaiwei 03:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military of Ind...

Absolute pain that art - just a list of equipment - have looked at australian article - excellent example to follow - will take time to tidy it all up, sigh SatuSuro 05:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Singapore Honours Category

Apologies for the revert, but the page was blanked without a summary. I won't revert it if you blank the page again, but may I suggest leaving an edit summary in future? Tom::Leave a message 07:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Medals Infoboxes

I understand the thoughts you put forth on this, and I would like to clarify my thought process. I originally was going to include the entire Order of Precedence in the higher/lower positions, but when I looked at it, I found that a lot of awards were old British Empire awards, or were no longer awarded. So, that's why I only included the current Australian awards in my edits. But as you pointed out, that isn't correct. That's why I am now going back through and updating the entire list to make them all correct. If you have any other suggestions, I realize that you are the keeper of these pages, so I will be happy to work with you on anything. Cassius1213 16:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Victoria Cross for Australia

I have reverted your formatting edits to Victoria Cross for Australia. [1] A full explanation is placed on the talk page itself but in summary i believe it does not conform to Wikipedia:Embedded list. Any discussion and comments are welcome on my talk page. Thanks Woodym555 16:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military of Indonesia...

Hi there. I removed a lot of stuff from that article. Not just because of a lack of sources, but because it is essentially a big list of inventory. It would be nice to have a *well referenced* article about its history, organisation, criticisms, significance in politics, etc rather than simply a list. I also reverted your revert of my deletion as the references don't stack and it is was listy. Hope you don't mind. Drop me a line anytime. kind regards. Merbabu 11:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] ADM Ribbon

Just had a look at your ADM ribbon. Good image, but the shade of red used misrepresents the actual shade - any chance of lightening it up? As a guide, the image of the full medal is a better approximation, although it is a smidgen darker and less vivid than the genuine article (getting the correct shade in photos/scans can be difficult). Cheers. AusTerrapin 22:05, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - you're right, is a bit a bit dull - will sparkle it up a bit PalawanOz 22:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] [sic]

Hello there. I'm not aware of any wikipedia-specific guidance on the use of sic, I simply went with my own instinct that this should not be used unless we are dealing with a verbatim quotation (which seems to be borne out by Sic). So far as the New Zealand General Service Medal 1992 (Non-Warlike) goes that seems to be fairly definitive (at least until I find the time to add some content to the 'Clasps' sections!), though I am less sure re. the Meritorious Unit Citation page.

Are those direct quotations in the 'Recipients' section or are they just a précis? If they are quotations then you could possibly make a case for 'sic', but then this all depends on how unusual a phrase 'Arabian Gulf' is. Although not widespread I think that we can safely say that it has currency with a significant minority and as such is not 'unusual'. Further we have Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Controversial names to bear in mind, which bars editors from editing an article solely to mess about with disputed names.

Taken in aggregate, I think that these are enough to preserve the status quo - though ironically I agree that the 'Arabian Gulf' usage is a lot of nonsense, but there you go...

Xdamrtalk 13:59, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

THe MUC quote is a direct quote of the citation - and I agree that the term "Arabian Gulf" is not unusual - just controversial (with some people) - now if we had a whole bunch of Iranian editors, I am sure the edit wars would be jumping out all over the place. PalawanOz 21:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:1914 Star

Reply left re black and white v. colour images. Best wishes, --Xdamrtalk 14:07, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Victoria Cross for Australia

I have taken this article to FAC and a question came up which i have been told you might be able to answer. I asked Xdamr whether he knew and he doesn't but siggested i ask you. Is the VC for OZ made and kept separately to the "Imperial" VC. Are they just kept in a big pool to be taken out when needed? I have looked at various sources and cannot find an answer. I was hoping that maybe you could shed some light on it? If not don't worry, just thought i would ask. Thanks. Woodym555 17:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, the intention would be (when we finally get to having a VC-4-Oz awarded) that the raw material would be sourced from the same stock as the Imperial VC, and the medal would be cast by Hancocks as well. I do not think they cast them in advance.... will hunt around and see what some experts I know of say (might take a day or two). PalawanOz 02:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Take as much time as you need/want. Thanks for trying. Woodym555 20:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
My source tells me that "if an award of the VC for Australia is made then the cross will be sourced from the UK (as CPL Apiata's cross recently was). Whether one is provided from MOD stock or whether Hancocks casts a medal especially would depend on the circumstances at the time." Unfortunately, whilst he is definitely in an authoritative position to give this answer, he cannot provide a reference for this statement (and is reluctant to be quoted directly on Wikipedia).PalawanOz 10:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, i understand. It backs up what i thought. I will try to get it sourced somehow as part of my look for more content. Thanks for all your efforts. Woodym555 17:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You wouldn't happen to know about the decision process leading up to its creation? I cannot find anything on hansard, and it would be good to have in the article. Thanks. Woodym555 16:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Medals

Yes, I was trying to help clean up a major copyright problem left behind by Husnock, who has since left us. While a lot of the medals may or may not have been in the public domain, he had uploaded other people's pictures and drawings of them which would be protected by copyright. He listed virtually no sources. After extensive discussions (including here), I assisted in the cleanup, which is still ongoing. If there are any further questions, please let me know on my talk page. Thanks. -- But|seriously|folks  17:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] UN Korea

Reply left on my talk page. (I initially left a short comment here as well, but it was nothing of any consequence and was simply duplicated from my talk page). --Xdamrtalk 13:23, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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Glad to see that you spotted this. Perhaps now is the time to zip through all the NZ images and add this FU rationale? I'll try and make a start on this tonight. Incidentally, from Monday I'm not likely to be around on Wikipedia for the next while - probably 7/8 weeks or so before I'll have time to do anything more than reply to the odd message on my talk page.
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[edit] VC for OZ help

Hey PalawanOz, the Victoria Cross for Australia FAC nomination has become bogged down due to a lack of information on the discussions that led to the award. I am hoping that you might have some information or a source? Thanks, and any comments would be welcome on the nomination page. Thanks again. Woodym555 18:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

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