Talk:Palm wine

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Contents 1 Merge with Toddy? 2 Facts & terminology? 3 Missing word 4 Indonesia

[edit] Merge with Toddy?

Please see Talk:Toddy for discussion on a merger between this article and that one. — BrianSmithson 01:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and merged the relevant content here and turned toddy into a disambiguation page. — BrianSmithson 17:34, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I've eloborated the Toddy tapper article that it no longer warrants to be joined with palm wine. -User:RaveenS 10:31, 3 March 2006 (ETC)

Well, a big expansion of palm wine is on my to-do list, and part of that is to describe in detail the practice of tapping the stuff. As of now, I agree -- there's no need to merge. But we should take another look once I finish my rewrite. — BrianSmithson 05:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Toddy, I believe, is a better article name. Palm wine is suggestive of alcoholic beverage. While this may be true in most of the world including Muslim countries, It is mostly used in its non-alcoholic form North Africa.-- hɑkeem_¡ʇu^ɐɹɯǝǝʞɐɥ 11:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Facts & terminology?

Somebody needs to do some fact-checking on this article. I find it hard to believe that the sap could ferment enough in just a few hours to have an appreciable alcohol content. And I'm still mystified by the reference to "kernels". MrDarwin 19:07, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Palm kernels. Google hits on the topic. Also mentioned in our palm oil article. This document and this one support the early fermentation and should probably be listed as references. — BrianSmithson 19:30, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

The production of 1 to 1.5% or so percent of alcohol in 24 hours mentioned in the ITDG article refered to above is quite normal. My experience is that tappers judge the alcohol content from the time they collect the sap (often in the afternoon in South Africa) whereas it has been fermenting since collection started or the container was last emptied. Digivu 14:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

My research supports this, if I remember correctly. I've got a bunch of notes from which I intend to expand this article greatly in the future; now I just need to get around to actually doing it . . . . — BrianSmithson 22:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't have believed it either, but while on a recent visit to Sri Lanka I discovered it does ferment extremely quickly. The smell is rather off-putting, but I couldn't knock it without drinking some of the stuff, and after doing that, all I can say is, it's the grossest tasting drink in living memory. The Sri Lankans all love it; and they're welcome to it. -- JackofOz (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing word

Please note that this paragraph omitted a final word. Since I don't know anything about the subject I can't provide it, but it should be corrected. —AbdiViklas16:51, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesia

I drank an Indonesian palm wine called Tuak, availabe in red or white with an alcohol volume of 2-5%. Should at leat be mentioned in the local names list, shouldn't it? --202.155.116.57 14:13, 6 July 2007 (UTC)