Talk:Pal Engjëlli

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Kaplan Resuli-Burović claims that Pal Engjëlli was a Montenegrin called Pavle Angelić. Andres 06:54, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

How is Engjëlli pronounced? Where lies the accent?

The accent is on the first letter, E. --Dori 14:09, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

In my history book it says that Pal Engjëlli was from Drishti[1]. At the time the government was composed of several councils: Head of State (Kryetari i Shtetit), Counsel of Nobels (Kuvendi i Fisnikëve), High Counsel (Këshilli i Lartë), of which Pal was a member, and Cousel of War (Këshilli i Luftës).

After Skanderbeg's death, the state of Venice send Pal Engjëlli in Albania to talk to the wife and to the child of Scanderbeg and convince them to hand over Kruja and other lands they possessed. This led to some rifts with other nobels that were not under the influence of Venice such as Lekë Dukagjini who actually tried to enter into talks with the Turks. Venice tried to keep Dukagjini from taking his possessions in Shkodër, which angered him to the point of armed conflict with Venice.

Note that there was also a certain Pal Pjetër Engjëlli (in early 1500), nephew of Dhimitër Frëngu.

Regarding, early Albanian writings, beside the prayer, there was Small dictionary (Fjalorthi) by Arnold von Harf (German traveling through Albania, wrote 21 words in Albanian, 8 sentences, and numbers 1-10, 100, 1000 and their translation into German). The third, was Perikopeja e ungjillit te pashkeve found in the Abrosia Library of Milan inside some Greek writings; it was in the Greek alphabet and the Tosk dialect, believed to be around the end of 15th, early 16th century.

--Dori 14:19, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

The correct spelling is Arnold von Harff.

tried to keep Dukagjini from taking his possessions in Shkodër: I am not sure I got it. Were Venetians sitting in Shkodër and not letting him in? Andres 14:34, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I don't know. That's all the book says. It seems the Venetians were in possession of several lands at this point (although probably more south than Shkodër), maybe they did just that. --Dori 14:48, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)