User talk:Pakalomattam

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is suspected that this user has used one or more accounts abusively.

The abuse of multiple accounts is prohibited; using new accounts to evade blocks or bans results in the block or ban being extended.
(Account information: block log • suspected sockpuppets • confirmed socks)

Contents

[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Dear Pakalomattam: Welcome to Wikipedia, a free and open-content encyclopedia. I hope you enjoy contributing. To help get you settled in, I thought you might find the following pages useful:

Don't worry too much about being perfect. Very few of us are! Just in case you are not perfect, click here to see how you can avoid making common mistakes.

If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user talk (discussion) page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.

Wikipedians try to follow a strict policy of never biting new users. If you are unsure of how to do something, you are welcome to ask a more experienced user such as an administrator. One last bit of advice: please sign any discussion comment with four tildes (~~~~). The software will automatically convert this into your signature which can be altered in the "Preferences" tab at the top of the screen. I hope I have not overwhelmed you with information. If you need any help just let me know. Once again welcome to Wikipedia, and don't forget to tell us about yourself and be BOLD! Ksbrowntalk 19:36, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Notability of പകലൊമററം

Welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome your help to create new content, but your recent additions (such as പകലൊമററം) are considered nonsense. Please refrain from creating nonsense articles. If you want to test things out, edit the sandbox instead. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Ksbrowntalk 19:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Please don't create articles with titles that aren't in English characters, such as പകലൊമററം. This is the English Wikipedia. --DanielCD 22:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malayalam Wikipedia

So is there a Wikipedia in the malayalam language? -- Samuel Pakalomattam 14 February 02007

here. I peeked and found it too. Glad we were able to track it down! --DanielCD 23:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Example.jpg etc.

I deleted the Exmaple.jpg et.al. simply because these are added by the editing toolbar, thus often articles contain them by accidental clicks on the toolbar or by editing experiments. To find these articles there should be as few other articles using them, so the new pages which need to be checked are easily visible at e.g. Image:Example.jpg. If you really need an empty image you can use Image:Example.png instead. andy 14:41, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] chcha

ച്ച not ചച, all these should be on the Malayalam script page. ൩ക-- Samuel Pakalomattam 15 February 02007

[edit] no prob!

im using a spellchecker =) †Bloodpack† 14:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please stick to four digit dates!

Hi. I noticed you edited several articles to have five-digit dates for the year instead of the standard four ("02007" instead of "2007"). Please do not change dates like this; Wikipedia convention, as well as ISO 8601 and various features of the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, requires that dates be written with four digits only. Thank you. ~Matticus TC 14:43, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Can you tell me how wikipedia is affected by the five digit dates. If you will check, it's only there in the articles section which I added. I am not changing anybody else's year format, unless I am changing the section also. -Samuel Pakalomattam 21/02/02007
The Manual of Style (dates and numbers) asks editors to use the conventions listed there for dates. It is convention to link days and years in articles (like this: February 21, 2007), and these are linked to articles that list events for those years, something which doesn't work if the date has a leading zero (you'll see 02007, for example, just produces a redlink). Templates such as {{cite}} also expect dates to be listed in the ISO format YYYY-MM-DD, which is converted by the software into a more readable form, which again would be broken by five digit dates. In any case, it's proper that editors should all follow the manual of style for things like this, so as to minimise any confusion. ~Matticus TC 15:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
The Manual of Style (dates and numbers) says nothing about not using five digit years.-Samuel Pakalomattam 21/02/02007
It doesn't say anything about not using the Japanese imperial year system and writing "Heisei 19" instead of "2007" either, but that doesn't mean editors should just arbitrarily start using that system wherever they feel like it. Every single example of a year after 999 Common Era in the Manual of Style is shown using four digits. The only uses of five-digit dates on the whole of Wikipedia are in the Long Now Foundation and related articles, and then only to explain their ideas and give them context ("the group writes years using five digits instead of four: 02007 instead of 2007"). In normal use Wikipedia uses the ISO date system of four digit years, because that's what the software expects, and that's what readers and other editors expect. ~Matticus TC 21:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Well since you agree it doesn't say anything about not using five digit numbers, now it is just a question of why you feel the need to change what I am writing because you think others expect a four digit year format. If you think so. then get the manual changed. Until then it is just your word against mine. If you would be so kind to change it back, I would appreciate it. Since you did all the changes in one day, I will give you til Saturday to either change the manual or change back all of the four digit years to five. I will on Saturday, Lord willing I am still here, change back my edits back to five digits. Others whose five digit years that you changed can argue for themselves. If I understand it, you and I are both equal in this role of editor, and your words don't mean any more then mine. If I am worng, and your words mean more, then you have til Saturday to show me.-Samuel Pakalomattam 22/02/02007
First, they are not "your" edits; anything you submit to Wikipedia is free to be edited by other contributors. Second, it is not my sole opinion versus yours, it is the community consensus versus yours. Thirdly, the manual of style explicitly states how to format years and gives examples. To quote directly from the Manual of Style (dates and numbers): "use four digits for years and decades after AD 999 (the same for BC)". There it is, in black and white, in a document authored by community consensus. If you want to petition a change in the consensus to explicitly allow five-digit years, then start a discussion about it in Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). Until the consensus changes, please use four-digit years. ~Matticus TC 10:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Consensus among all editors involved should be the guiding policy in this situation (it is a policy). Please read that policy, it's not too long and shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes. Unless the consensus of all editors involved agree that an exception to the requested 4-digit year system would improve the article, I would agree that the 4-digit system should be used. Remember also, that you don't own the work that you contribute. Other editors may change your additions in the interest of improving Wikipedia, as you may do to the additions of others. Sancho McCann (talk) 19:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lakewood Church

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, the external links you added to the page Lakewood Church does not comply with our guidelines for external links. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the links should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting them. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Wikipedia is NOT a link farm. --Evb-wiki 16:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

And you are even now deleting the links from other articles with more then two links?? But you give me too much credit, some of those links you deleted were not added by me. -Samuel Pakalomattam 27/02/02007
Next time I see someone add multiple external links (say 15) I certainly will. And . . . yes, they were all yours. (Check the page history.) --Evb-wiki 18:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Mtt.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Mtt.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 17:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stop Mixing Multiple Languages

Attn Pakalomattam: Thank you for the contributions you made to Wikipedia in the past. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia used by a large web community for research and other purposes in the English language. Please consider this fact and Stop Mixing Multiple Languages while editing. There is a Wikipedia Malayalam website where you can translate the whole text and show your skills. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.103.8.33 (talk) 14:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Who are you, ip address 74.103.8.33?

Section 10 doesn't exist, ip address 74.103.8.33, so I couldn't reply to you.

Whoever you are that just told me not to mix Malayalam and English, I can't seem to reply to you. Probably because you are not a registered user. Anyway, all the best, and I don't see why you think I shouldn't mix malayalam and English.

I would consider your words more if you were a registered person here and not just an IP address.

-- The Lord Jesus Christ Bless you,

Samuel

Samuel Pakalomattam 21:22, 27 April 02007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:Mtt family.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Mtt family.jpg. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 14:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] License tagging for Image:20061029AK011101-most rev kpy.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:20061029AK011101-most rev kpy.JPG. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 07:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo of Jesse Duplantis

I have added a single "!" in the photo name on your "Jesse" page here. Since it is a copyrighted photo, we as Wikipedia editors are not allowed to have copyrighted stuff on our userpages/sub-pages. By the way, your page is the most different I have come across as far as language goes. Cool! - Enjoy the English Wikipedia! JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 23:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] to: junglecat

o.k. Thank you, I didn't know that rule. I just copied the regular article to a personal page.

Samuel Pakalomattam 12:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

No problems... Take care. JungleCat Shiny!/Oohhh! 23:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Billgothard.png

Hello, Pakalomattam. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Billgothard.png) was found at the following location: User:Pakalomattam/quiverfull. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 06:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Mary pride thewayhome.jpg

Hello, Pakalomattam. An automated process has found and will an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that is in your userspace. The image (Image:Mary pride thewayhome.jpg) was found at the following location: User:Pakalomattam/quiverfull. This image or media will be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. This does not necessarily mean that the image is being deleted, or that the image is being removed from other pages. It is only being removed from the page mentioned above. All mainspace instances of this image will not be affected Please find a free image or media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 21:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Fullquiver.jpg

Hello Pakalomattam, an automated process has found an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, such as fair use. The image (Image:Fullquiver.jpg) was found at the following location: User:Pakalomattam/quiverfull. This image or media will be removed per statement number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media will be replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg , so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. The image that was replaced will not be automatically deleted, but it could be deleted at a later date. Articles using the same image should not be affected by my edits. I ask you to please not re-add the image to your userpage and could consider finding a replacement image licensed under either the Creative Commons or GFDL license or released to the public domain. Please note that it is possible that the image on your page is included vie a template or usebox. In that case, please find a free image for the template or userbox. Thanks for your attention and cooperation. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 12:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:20061029AK011101-most_rev_kpy.JPG

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:20061029AK011101-most_rev_kpy.JPG. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 00:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mtt_family.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Mtt_family.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 00:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Mtt.jpg

Image Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading Image:Mtt.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. User:Gay Cdn (talk) (Contr) 00:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of Mathew Thoompumpattu Thomas

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Mathew Thoompumpattu Thomas, by Gay Cdn, another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Mathew Thoompumpattu Thomas seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Mathew Thoompumpattu Thomas, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Mathew Thoompumpattu Thomas itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 00:47, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Mtt family.jpg

If you can give the proper copyright status of Image:Mtt family.jpg, please do so. But please do not simply remove the template which says that the image doesn't have a copyright licence at the moment. AecisBrievenbus 20:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want the image to be kept, you have to indicate how Wikipedia is allowed to use the image under existing copyright laws. The relevant copyright tags can be found at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/All. If you have any specific questions, you may find more and better help at Wikipedia talk:Copyrights/Can I use... and at Wikipedia talk:Copyright problems. AecisBrievenbus 21:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Pakalomattom

This might interest you

  • Pakalomattom
  • Pakalomattom_Ayrookuzhiyil

Tinucherian 10:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome. Hope you can also contribute to my pages of our Mahafamily ! Which sub-family of Pakalomattam do you belong to ?? Annicattu ??

Tinucherian 14:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya..I remember you ! u r the one who started a yahoo group on the Pakalomattam family rt... ?SORRYYYYYYYYY ... I have a very poor memory ... :) ...

I am not sure whether i know anyone of your family personally...

I was able to put a good amount of history thru http://www.ayrookuzhiyil.org ... But this it is still incomplete. Only that under one of the six forefathers were updated....

anyways , keep in touch

Tinucherian 14:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I am not aware of any other 12 tharkans of Puthencavu. ( do you have the link ? )

I am not sure whether it has any co-relation with ayrookuzhiyil history. As you can see in our site , The founder tharakan had 6 sons,


Idicula Tharakan (Senior) Ayrookuzhiyil Puthencavu had six sons : (1)Idicula Tharakan (Junior) (2)Kochaipa Tharakan (3) Mammen Tharakan (4) Mani Mathen Tharakan (5) Joseph Tharakan (6) Abraham Tharakan

I am not sure whether he was referring to these same 6 Tharakans!

Regards

Tinucherian 15:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding D1E2F6 Thankamma (Kuzhikala Chiramannil ), I am not sure.. I took it from the kudumbacharitram.

Thatz gr8... I will b very happy to get a copy... takin Photo copy and sending it might be difficult for u. A scanned soft copy is fine enough. Thanks a lot in advance.

Since the complete publication of the history of all the six forefathers was gettin late. So the descendants of the Idicula Tharakan (Junior) , came up with their history book, many years ago , which I had used for this website.

I heard that the complete book just got published , I havent got my hand in it yet !

Tinucherian 16:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

you may send it to tincherian (at) gmail (dot) com

Thanks in advance.

Tinucherian 10:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

George Kovoor

A tag has been placed on George Kovoor, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Mitch32contribs 22:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kenneth Copeland

Please stop. If you continue to add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Kenneth Copeland, you will be blocked from editing. -- azumanga (talk) 01:48, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments

On my talk page, in reply to:

I didn't think that was an ad,  since the products are being given for free!

Though The CDs & DVDs are being given to you absolutely free!
(Just like this Wikipedia article is Free!!)
--Samuel Pakalomattam (talk) 08:47, 11 January 02008 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if you pay for those CDs or not -- Wikipedia regulations prohibit the offers and promotions of products and materials, even if it's from the third party, even if no money changes hands, even if there's no strings attached. See WP:SPAM and WP:NPOV. -- azumanga (talk) 12:52, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

The part Azumanga1 mentioned was like a promotional offer, but I think if you just kept it to mentioning Huckabee showed up on Copeland's program, that could be manageable. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 14:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm okay with that, as long as nothing's being offered. -- azumanga (talk) 15:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Uncategorized

Hi! Would you mind removing the uncategorized tag from your page User:Pakalomattam/Orethu Family? Right now, your page is showing up as an uncategorized article, but it seems to be the same as the real Orethu Family article. --Gueneverey (talk) 21:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity

Hi ,

A new Wikiproject was started for Indian Christianity related articles. The goal of this WikiProject is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Indian Christianity available on Wikipedia. Your contributions are highly welcome . Please let others know who might be also interested.
Thanks
Tinucherian (talk) 11:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


Hello, Pakalomattam , We have noticed your contributions and interest to the articles related to Indian Christianity. We feel you might also be interested in joining our WikiProject on Indian Christianity Articles on Wikipedia. We welcome you to join this project! Happy Editing!

-Tinucherian (talk) 18:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
An Useful guide for you :-
Main Project Pages
How to Join the Project ?
Templates for the project
  • The following templates can be used on pages in Wikipedia to associate them with the Indian Christianity WikiProject.

Main templates

  • {{Christianityportal}} — Template to add to MAIN pages of all Christianity-related articles
  • {{ChristianityWikiProject|indian-work-group=yes}} : Template to add to TALK pages of all INDIAN Christianity-related articles
  • {{User WikiProject IndianChristianity}} — Userbox for members to advertise our Indian Christainity Wiki project!
This user is a member of
WikiProject Christianity in India
  • [[Category:Indian Christianity]] Category tag to Indian Christainity related articles.
  • {{subst:Welcome2WP-IC}} Invitation to Interested Users.

Stub templates
What Should I do ??
  • These are lots of things you can do to improve the quality of Wikipedia coverage of Indian Christianity and this project
    • Help and contribute to Indian Christanity related Articles
    • Look over the recent changes list for recent improvements to articles, other changes, and vandalism.
    • Attract attention from editors interested in Christianity and Christianity-related topics.
    • Place the WPChristianity banner on the head of Talk Pages of relavent articles.
    • Improve the WPChristianity banner that goes at the head of Talk Pages to handle tags for unreferenced, copyedit needed, cleanup needed, expansion needed, and POV warning.
    • Adopted Topic, where a suite of topically related articles are targeted for improvement until there's a consensus to move on to a new topic. (see here).
    • Article Review, for articles nominated by members for wider review. In this case the new ones go at the top and sink as new ones are added. (see here)
    • Add more reward templates (barnstars), and have people in the task force actually watching logs and rewarding key contributors.
    • Give help on Open tasks
    • Contribute to Portal:Indian Christianity
Thank you !

[edit] Portal:Indian Christianity Launched

We are happy to announce the launch of Portal:Indian Christianity by Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity , a work force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity and Wikipedia:WikiProject India. Please share your comments and suggestions. - Tinucherian (talk) 17:10, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indian Christianity

Hello,

Could you chime in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian Christianity? There is some debate going on regarding the name of the portal, project and the template & icon/flag logo. Thanks.Brian0324 (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to Indian Christianity Wikiproject/workgroup

Upon discussion and consensus ( see here) , The following changes and decisions were taken w.r.t to Indian Christianity workgroup :-

  • The scope of workgroup will be limited to Indian region only for now.
  • The workgroup will be renamed to Christianity in India instead of Indian Christianity.
  • The changes will effect the project pages, Portal and the templates.
  • The templetes will be replaced by a Indian map instead of Tricolor flag picture.

This is FYI - Tinucherian (talk) 04:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Christianity

Hello Pakalomattam!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity

The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)