Talk:Pakistan Air Force Academy

Merged

I think the article Risalpur Airbase should be merged with this article Pakistan Air Force Academy. Because the actual name of Risalpur Airbase is Pakistan Air For Academy Risalpur, and there is nothing else at that base other than Academy. --SMS ^Talk 20:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I am merging it after getting no response for 24 days! --SMS ^Talk 12:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Note that you cannot merge if you don't get a response. You didnt place the {{merge}} on either of the pages to show that a merge has been proposed.  UzEE  14:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[1] --SMS ^Talk 15:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

And was the {{mergefrom}} placed on this article? and was this taken to the owner WikiProjects?  UzEE  04:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I support the merger proposal. However, the new article should contain the terrorist incident happened recently in PAF Academy.Razzsic (talk) 06:15, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Well! those rockets as is evident from the report didn't landed in PAF Academy, they landed in some private industrial area of the Nowshera District. --SMS ^Talk 18:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Well! it's obvious the private industrial wasn't the target. Hence, making the mention of the rockets being fired deemed to included in the PAF Risalpur/Academy article. Thanks. Razzsic (talk) 09:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I also support the merge, though the name of the article should be PAF Risalpur, not the PAF Academy. This airbase hasn't always been an academy, it was raised to that level by Ayub Khan. Also, in the future the role of this airbase could change, so it is better to name the article "PAF Risalpur".Zaindy87 (talk) 03:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment: The name should also include the word Academy as it is currently an academy and people would try to look it up under that. I suggest that a separate redirect should be created title PAF Risalpur and directed to PAF Academy.  UzEE  05:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the role of the academy would ever change, so Pakistan Air Force Academy (PAF Academy or PAFA) is more suitable.--SMS ^Talk 13:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment

I've just responded to a request for assessment. It's a very good article but needs a WP:LEAD section and a few more citations for Milhist B-class. This should be very easy to do! Leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions. All the best, --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 08:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment: February 2008

Reassessed as a Start class. Look at the Pakistan Project box for comments.  UzEE  12:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copy Edit

As requested, I've gone through the article and made minor changes. I believe the article now reads better in English. Good luck to all the cadets and staff. I once landed at the PAF base at Maripur (not sure about the spelling) and enjoyed a few days of welcome at the mess. Mikeo1938 (talk) 08:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for copy editing! but you also changed the nickname of the Academy from Home of Eagles to Eagles Nest, both may have the same meaning but not only the academy but town of Risalpur is also known by the name Home of Eagles. So, I think its nickname should not be changed. What do you say? --SMS ^Talk 11:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, so put it back to Home of Eagles. Place names are always difficult. I guess Home of Eagles is a translation from the Urdu ... (?). As a matter of interest only, which nickname was given to the town by the British back in the old days? Did they use one or did they just refer to it as Risalpur? Mikeo1938 (talk) 12:20, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I don't think it's a translation from Urdu, I think I have also seen it somewhere written at the hill on the way to Risalpur. And at the time of Britishers they must have called it Risalpur because the very first force stationed at Risalpur was Cavalry of British Indian Army, and as in Urdu Cavalry is known as "Risala", so the town got the name "Risalpur"("pur" is a suffix which means town used with many other names of places like Campbellpur, Haripur). It is known that in 1940s Britishers also kept their Air Force here, and most probably they made here a training facility, which after independence was used by PAF. As far as Army is concerned, now there is no cavalry stationed here, rather for Pakistan Army, it is a Home of Sappers, as Army Engineers Center and some training Battalions and also Military College of Engineering is stationed here.

And I am pleased to know that you have traveled to PAF base Maripur, which is now known as PAF base Masroor. So may I know when did you visit here? --SMS ^Talk 22:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation of the suffix 'pur'. Also for the interesting info about Risalpur. I landed at what we called Maripur in the early 1960s in a Vulcan bomber Mark 1. At the time I would have been on 617 Sqn or 50 Sqn, probably the latter. I think we stayed for 3 or 4 days before flying back to Scampton or Waddingdon. I was an AEO (Air Electronics Officer). Another time, we were doing in-flight refuelling tests and flew to Maripur and back without landing! When we were there, the PAF had (I think) Canberras; it was interesting that some Canberras of the Rhodesian AF were also there. Like us, they were just visiting. Good luck with your Wiki articles ... Mikeo1938 (talk) 22:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)