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[edit] POV check

I added a POV check tag so someone else could check the article out. I was hesitant to add it, but a large portion of the article seems very slanted towards not liking the Adam Jones. i think it just needs to just be reworded a bit to conform to a neutral point of view. --ScottyBoy900Q 12:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC) I tried to fix it up a bit. Sarge

[edit] POV check

I added a POV check tag so someone else could check the article out. I was hesitant to add it, but a large portion of the article seems very slanted towards not liking the Adam Jones. i think it just needs to just be reworded a bit to conform to a neutral point of view. --ScottyBoy900Q 12:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

I tried to fix it up a bit. Sarge

[edit] Official name

If his now-legal name is Pacman Jones, we should make his article under that name, not Adam Jones (American football). We have Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Muhammad Ali under their changed names, so too should we for Pacman. SliceNYC 03:31, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I checked into it quickly on Google and it doesn't seem like Pacman is his legal first name. So I deleted the part about that in the article, and my point is now moot. SliceNYC 03:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

Couldn't this section be retitled 'legal troubles' or something of the sort? all of the controversy is related to criminal investigations. maybe it would be more accurate than to simply say 'controversy' (although obviously controversy would be applicable if something else comes up.) Xwoodandwater 01:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This article should be moved to Pacman Jones (settled)

He is always reffered to as Pacman Jones, NFL.com, CBS sportsline and everyone other stat datebase lists him as 'Pacman'.[1][2] [3]In the media he is never reffered to a Adam Jones. This article should be moved to Pacman Jones even if its not his real name--Coasttocoast 01:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I strongly agree. We already, after all, have Michael Savage's artilce under his pseudonym instead of his real name, Michael Weiner. WP:COMMONNAME says we should use the name a person is best known by, and in Mr. Jones' case that's clearly "Pacman". Redxiv 04:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

I second the notion to rename the article Pacman Jones.

Along with the references more commonly referring to Pacman instead of Adam, there are other Adam Jones and it would make the article neater looking to have it say Pacman Jones instead of Adam Jones (football player). The parenthesis of football player makes it look unclean. Either change it to Pacman Jones or Adam "Pacman" Jones. John 05:27, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Might be a good idea to include how he got the name Pacman somewhere in the article, because it is important and nowhere to be seen. Kaiser matias 03:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who the hell is Moore? Possible Plagiarism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacman_Jones#2007

This "Moore" person is not mentioned anywhere else in the article... but then suddenly, boom, this last name comes out of nowhere. Who's "Moore"? --Recoil42 05:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Moore is drug dealer Darryl Moore. --Zero Cool 07:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is it really worth mentioning?

Is it really worth mentioning that the NFL commissioner met with Pacman to discuss his future on April 3rd? --Angrymansr 21:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-Protection

I had placed this page on Semi-Protection, to lessen the vandalism hopefully.

John 06:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Vandalism

I removed a lot of overtly racist comments. The article said that he was the only black person in the state of West Virginia and moved to Tennessee because it had a larger black population. Clearly that was vandalism. But I also removed a few items that I mention here just in case I'm wrong. The article said that his mother Deborah's nickname was "Shaniqua." Sounded racist to me, but I Googled it to be safe, and found nothing, so I removed it. Likewise for a nickname for his Grandmother Christine.

Finally, I removed this sentence from his "legal troubles - 2006" section:

"Also, on November 12, 2006. Jones was arrested for sucker-punching Latino fans after the Tennessee Titans game in Oakland."

Because of the racial overtones and the use of the term "sucker punch" I figured it was suspicious. I checked every source I could think of and I couldn't find any reference to him being arrested in Oakland for getting in a fight with fans. If he did get arrested, put this back in without the unnecessary bits. Andrewdoane 12:53, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info Box Name?

Some of you wanted "Adam Jones". Some of you wanted "Pacman Jones". I thought "Adam 'Pacman' Jones" was a fair compromise. Obviously, "Pacman Jones" is more recognized, so I don't have a problem with the article being named "Pacman Jones". However, if you wanted to look up his statistics in a sports almanac, you wouldn't find anything under "Pacman Jones". You would have to look up his information under "Adam Jones". Having the full variation "Adam 'Pacman' Jones" solves both problems. --Bark 21:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Not to mention, it's inclusive and not exclusive. Inclusive is good for an encyclopedia. --Bark 21:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
His infobox name should not be a full name. The only reason that field is in even the infobox template is for pages that have a disambig. (i.e. (American football)) can have it removed for the infobox. But if there's not a disambig., as is the case here, the name that the article is titled by (the common name of the person) is the one used in the infobox. All other middle names/other nicknames/jr's, etc. that aren't in the article title should be left for the actual article text itself. Pats1 00:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
The purpose of infoboxes is to give correct snapshot information. The reason the name field was implemented was not only to allow for things like disambiguations in titles, but people or things that are also known by alternate names to the point that their article is titled as such under the naming conventions (Hulk Hogan, Dog, AIDS). Pacman Jones is not his actual name, Adam is. Not only is "Adam 'Pacman' Jones" inclusive (his whole public name is in the box), it's a good middle ground.«»bd(talk stalk) 14:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
So where is the line drawn? Donald "Don" Davis? Christopher "Chris" Henry? My point is, the infobox, like the article title, is for a player's common name. I don't see how Christopher "Chris" Henry is any different from Adam "Pacman" Jones (a nickname). Chris Henry (wide receiver) is the article title, so his infobox title is Chris Henry. Pacman Jones is the article title, so his infobox title is Pacman Jones. All the other middle names/nicknames that aren't in the article titles are left to the first line of the article. Pats1 14:50, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Child?

I heard he has a child. Why isn't this mentioned on his page?(MgTurtle 00:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)).

[edit] "Professional TNA Wrestler?

His agent has stated his won't wrestle and thus far, he has not wrestled, so I don't think he should be describled as a "TNA wrestler". Perhaps simply "under contract to TNA Wrestling" would suffice.

On the other hand, the Executive V.P. of TNA said that Pacman will wrestle, in a tag-team. It's also being reported that Pacman has had a wrestling ring installed at his home, where he's working out. For right now, I think that both his agent's denial and the TNA V.P.'s affirmation should be included. --ChandlerH 19:26, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Second Infobox

Shouldn't we have a second infobox in the Pro Wrestling section listing his wrestling stats. I mean Arnold (the governor of California) as three on his page...Politician infobox, Movie star infobox, and a Body Builder infobox. Doesn't it make sense?--Hornetman16 (talk) 03:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

If/when he gains significant experience doing that, then I'd say yes. Right now, no.►Chris Nelson 03:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wrestling profile

Along with his NFL profile, could someone please post his wrestling profile on the side just like every other wrestler?

[edit] Don't redirect

I created Team Pacman as an official article, but before I created the article it was being redirected to Pacman Jones himself. So please do not redirect it just leave it as it is. From Thebluesharpdude

[edit] Protection.

This page NEEDS to be protected! I'm tired of undoin' vandalism to it! --Zero Cool 15:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to request it, though I doubt it'll be granted. It's doing fairly well being watched.«»bd(talk stalk) 16:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
That's cuz I've undone vandalism atleast 3 times in the last two or three days. --Zero Cool 17:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
That's what I just said. «»bd(talk stalk) 17:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Namco objection?

This guy's nickname is Pacman. This guy appears in Madden NFL video games, right? Has Namco, owner of exclusive rights in the name Pac-Man for video games, objected? --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 22:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)