Talk:Pacific Union

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[edit] Dead link

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maru (talk) contribs 04:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Internal search of the otago website for the same article came up with the same broken link, I've emailed the site admin to let them know, if nothing happens I'll remove it. nigell k 12:56, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misinformation about New Zealand and the Australian Constitution

In the text, it says "The Constitution of Australia gives New Zealand the right to become a state of the Commonwealth of Australia at any time[citation needed], although there is little political support for an Australia/New Zealand union."

In point 6 (Definitions) of the Preamble of the Constitution of Australia, New Zealand is indeed mentioned as a State, with a qualification over whether they are a member of the Commonwealth (of Australia). However, since New Zealand didn't decide to join, it probably can't be defined as a State, and definitely not an Original State.

The legal force of the Preamble isn't likely to be strong, in any case.

There are no other explicit references to New Zealand in the Constitution that I can find.

This makes the text referring to New Zealand's right erroneous I think. Can someone fix the offending sentence, or remove it if it doesn't add to the content of the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.151.95.22 (talk) 12:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

I altered the sentence in question there to be more factually accurate, the constitution does allow for the admission of new states and it was thought early on that NZ especially, along with other British colonies, would join. Section 6 is what is referred to here, Section 121 is more relevant.

This whole paragraph still reads like 3 bullet points though with no real flow. nigell k 10:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag

Has the 1908 - 1912 Australasian Olympic Flag ever been put forward as a potential Pacific Union flag other than in this article?? It just seems a bizarre inclusion in the article to me. I'll leave it up a week or so to give anyone a chance to justify its use here. nigell k 11:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] S121

I'm afraid I'd delete the reference to Pacific countries becoming states of the Australian federation. As the editor admits, the idea of using S121 has never been mentioned anywhere in the debate on Pacific Union. It's just not immediately obvious why even New Zealand, let alone any other Pacific nation, would find union on those terms, which NZ rejected in the 1890s, acceptable in the 21st century after over a hundred years of independence. I'll leave it a week or so and then delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Algri (talkcontribs) 23:45, 2 March 2008 (UTC)