Talk:Pacific International University

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Of course the school says it is as good as any accredited institution, it would be remarkable if it didn't. On the other hand, it is clearly selling degrees so fits the definition. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 09:52, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Clear to you, maybe. What does that mean, though? We are editors to an encyclopedia, so save the judgment and try and be an even-handed reporter. --Turkmen 09:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)This user now indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet
Even handed? They are connected to group that sold accreditation for $100.00, they have no campus, the President has no degrees from any accredited schools, and they sell doctorates in a lump sum. Arbustoo 10:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] History, course offerings, response to non-accreditation

I'd like to put the following back on the entry. Are any opposed? If so, why?

The original school was called Pacific College of Graduate Studies and it was founded in 1980 by Dr. Clifford Wilson. However, in 1987 the school was incorporated as Pacific International University.

PIU offers courses in the Old Testament, New Testament, theology, church ministries, cults, missiology, philosophy, and many other subjects. They also offer the following degrees: B.D., B.Th., M.Div., M.Th., and doctoral degrees in Divinity and Theology.

The university has no accreditation. However, it says, "Our own conviction is that the standard of our courses and the quality of our graduates (many of whom are now in world-wide Christian leadership) are at least as important as any form of 'accreditation'."[1]

--Turkmen 09:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)This user now indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet

That's all well and good about them not wanting accreditation. It's not okay for you to use sock puppets and delete facts. Arbustoo 10:30, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not authorized by the State of Missouri, either.

In addition to its complete lack of accreditation, Pacific International University is not recognized nor authorized by the Department of Higher Education of the State of Missouri.

See: http://www.dhe.mo.gov/completeinstlist.shtml

Go ahead. Search it to your heart's content. PIU isn't listed. Several other Christian colleges are (which would tend to indicate that the State of Missouri can't be accused of bias) as are several other correspondence colleges, but PIU is conspicuous in its absence.

RWAnderson72 04:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it was included, but vandalized by another user. Arbustoo 23:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Pacific International University no longer exists. Therefore, I think that the references to it are unneeded and inappropriated. Please consider deleting them. Thank You, Realjack—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.231.105 (talkcontribs)

Whether or not it still exists, references are needed to verify information in the article, and establish notability. Someguy1221 02:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Pacific International Univeersity no longer exists, therefore I would suggest thath all references to it be deleted.You may verify that it has gone out of business by simply visiting the website.Dr. Baugh and Dr. Wilson are no lnger affiliated with the institution. PIU has ceased to exist, so continous negative attacks on the institution or the men seem outdated and waste the time of the reader.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.130.231.105 (talkcontribs)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 01:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)