Talk:P.O.D.

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[edit] NOT A CHRISTIAN BAND

this was really wired what i found but it could be true [1] POD might be of the devil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.176.204 (talk) 21:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Discography is messed up

im too lazy to fix it. PhilCosby 23:22, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with it? Juru (talk) 05:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POD IS NOT NU METAL, THEY ARE ALTERNATIVE ROCK

POD is an alternative based rock band. I don't think they are Nu Metal because Nu Metal carries a rather heavy sound to it, which POD lacks. Nu metal bands include; Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Korn, Ill Nino etc. POD shares none or very little similarities with these Nu Metal bands.


--- Thats quite funny, as p.O.d. are far heavier than Limp Bizkit or Linkin Park. which shows how little you know about the band Kronix 22:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

P.O.D.'s earlier music had a much more metal/rapcore sound. They have softened up a bit, but would still qualify as nu metal or even metal. It's plain to see that someone who thinks P.O.D. doesn't have (or never had) a 'rather heavy' sound must have been snoozing when Snuff the Punk hit the stores.--MemeGeneScene 22:24, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I completely agree. I think the "biggest" difference in the music is the lyrics, other than that, the sounds generally follows the same set. IronCrow 00:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

While both hard rock and nu metal are in the infobox, I added both terms to compromise about the general genre of the band to the intro paragraph. Supercodes 02:05, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree totally. P.O.D. is NOT new metal. They "are" newmetal the same way Hoobastank, Nickelback and Puddle of Mudd "are". Having NM influences doesn't mean the band is NM. I've edited the article suppressing "Metals" and replacing by Crossover Rock, Christian Rock and Alternative Rock. Call them Christian Rock, but please don't call them a thing they definitely aren't. Robfbms 00:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your name

Why is your band named P.O.D? Is there a reason?

It stands for Payable On Death.

Payable on Death is an analogy of Christ's ultimate sacrifice for all the sin of mankind. In order that we would not have to pay the price ourselves, God gave us His only Son to pay for sin of His creation. He paid the price with His life, hence the term Payable On Death.

Just to clarify, this is the discussion page for an encyclopedic article about the band, not the band's website's message board. If you'd like to find the band's website, I'm sure it's listed at the bottom of the article, under 'External Links'.--MemeGeneScene 22:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style Controversy II

I have a q: Is this Christian Rock, or just rock under a Christian Label? See, I'm not sure if I want them, 'cause I don't believe in any Religion...

The Wretched

Of coarse, I don't care if it's got like, very few elements. I mean, I love System of a Down, even though they got some mentions of God.

The Wretched
They're all Christians. — Phantasy Phanatik | talk | contribs 02:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't really give a damn if there christians, "to each his own" I say. It not like they go bash on anyone, like the damn Hardliner punks.

69.250.130.215 23:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

They are definitly a Christian Band. I'm on their "Warriors" mailing list and It is clear to anyone with a mind of their own that they are Christian. If anyone dissagrees, leave me a message on my Talk Page. - Abishai | 11:25, 16 October 2006 (AEST)

They are a Christian band. They have played at the Cornerstone Festival, Christian revivals, and I am too on the "Warriors" mailing list that Abishai stated. Besides being played heavily on MTV, they were played heavily on Christian television shows...and this is from their Greatest Hits e-card page [1]:
“ The P.O.D. story began in 1992 when a couple of guys from the streets of San Diego, united by a love for their hometown, pounding, grinding rock ’n’ roll, and a deep faith in God that went deeper than shoutouts or liner note thank-yous, decided to form a band and take a shot at changing music history.

Faith has always been a key element of the P.O.D. story, but it’s all too easy to misunderstand it as just another tale of a Christian rock band that crossed over to mainstream success à la Amy Grant. In fact, P.O.D.’s rise to prominence has more in common with U2, for like U2 they were a band that stood proudly on mainstream terrain, refusing to accept the paradigm that a steadfastly secular entertainment culture had handed them—namely that groups sharing P.O.D.’s fervor for God could play their music, but they’d have to do it out of the earshot of mainstream music fans in the cultural gulag of Christian rock. Once there, it was almost assured that nobody except for fellow God-lovers would ever hear their music, for it was recorded for religious labels, played on religious stations, reviewed in religious magazines, and played for the public at religious-oriented venues across the nation and the world.

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maru (talk) contribs 04:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.--Ktdreyer 23:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dead link

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maru (talk) contribs 04:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.--Ktdreyer 23:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rasta influence?

Do you believe that Salassie was/is King of Kings, Jesus incarnate?

I believe taht Sonny flaat out denies any belief in Rasta. He claims Christ loud and clear.
Yes, but with evidence I have gathered from songs and many many other applicabilities, you wouldn't believe the stuff that relates to Rastafarianism.
You're right. We wouldn't. But you forget some of the Rastafarian beliefs are based on Christianity. No they aren't Rastafarians. IronCrow 00:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] randomip

Hey, some unknown ip fella was editing and accidentally deleted the comments he thought he was answering. I don't feel like reconstructing it so check the history for more.--DjSamwise 04:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Yea, I was editing, cause I know the band personally, and someone modified it back to what it was before I started editing . I didn't delete the comments. Someone deleted them for me. So, basically they made a bias article about them that leaves questions unanswered. I modified it to answer any questions one might have while reading it. However, someone changed it back, thinking that I am not knowledgeable. Well, when you have been on 3 Street teams for P.O.D., an you have spent time with the band at Shows talking with them about there lives. You would then understand why I changed the page.

[edit] STILL living in the Ghetto

I was shocked to find out that even though the band sold 7 million records, they were still living in the Ghetto. I think that this is an appropriate footnote to correspond with their breakup with Atlantic records since this was clearly seen on MTV Cribs.

This is the real proof that even though they made all that money, they are true to what is around them. They don't forget there roots.

[edit] Christian Music

To most P.O.D. is known as a Christian band.

P.O.D. use the trinity symbol, which is CLEARLY forbidden in the Bible. the trinity symbol is three inter-woven "6"s which

adds up to the mark of the beast "666"

P.O.D. also very cleverly edited a lot of Rastafarianism into their music. Words like JAH (the Rastafarians name for God) and ZION (Ethiopia in Africa, the Rastafarians holy land) are very common in their music.

As a Christian, as yourself. Which God are you worshiping? God or Jah? God or Heavy Metal Rock music?

Oh, great. Dial-the-Truth Ministries got here.
Though the trinity symbol, P.O.D.'s logo, was originally a pagan symbol, it has been claimed by Christians as the Holy Trinity, not the mark of the beast.
P.O.D. uses words like "Jah" because according to Sonny those are words their audience relates to. It draws them in. After Bad Brains exploded, atheist rock lovers don't care if they're listening to music which sings praises to "Jah," but when they find out which Jah P.O.D. is singing praises to, God the Father, the one true God, that's when they're touched by their message.
I am worshiping Jah. The Jah of Psalm 68:4. — Phantasy Phanatik | talk | contribs 07:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Umm... How is a 'P.O.D. = devil worshipping'(give me a break) rant relevant to the article? Unless, of course, you want a criticism section describing such controversies. Somehow, I doubt it.--MemeGeneScene 17:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

You need to actually research to back up what you're saying big chief. In old testament there were many references to the many names of God. "Jah" could be a reference not to Rastafarianism, but to Jehovah, one of the names of God.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.209.152.104 (talk • contribs)

Erm..... Zion is also the name of the Jewish homeland, hence the Zionist movement. And since Jesus was Jewish and there are numerous mentions of Zion in the Bible, i think it is very relevant to Christianity and Christian Metal 82.18.226.41 15:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Jah is a reference to "hallelujah". In hebrew, i believe, hallelujah means "praise God" and the last 3 letters in that word is Jah and IS what God means in hebrew. If you want to read about their christianity, go to www.warriorklan.com There is alot better explanations at that site

1. Jah means God. Just as Jehovah means God, and just as Christ means God (to Christians). 2. Zion is the Jewish holy land and the name of the Rasta holy land (some part of Ethiopia, right? Don't hold me on that). So what? IronCrow 22:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Truby gone

I think Truby shold be put into the former member area now, since he's even removed from their lineup on myspace

Could someone also replace the band image with one that has Marcos in it?--MemeGeneScene 17:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

preferrably the one they use as their myspace band image{{subst:image source|Image:1137893972 POD Testify.jpg)) Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 00:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC) {{missing rationale|Image:1137893972 POD Testify.jpg

[edit] Western Album

What is it? Can anyone link to something that verifies that this thing even exists?

I Dont know about all of you but should'n the NEW album by addressed in a new sub-tite or something relavent because i do not know about all of you but this album might be the most anticipated yet and everyone should be informed. I have not done this myself becuase i do now know jack when it comes to computers.

I don't know. Seems just like someone is putting it up there as vandalism. same as the '20th century hits' one. i'll change it back to When Angel's and Serpents Dance

and whoever is putting that emocore shit all over the place please go crawl into a hole and shoot yourself for the sake of everyone.

good man

[edit] Vandalize much?

whoever fucked this page up-first-its funny-but your a half assed motherfucker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.195.126 (talk) 05:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes

If you're a fan of P.O.D., here are some userboxes I created for your userpages.

Code Result
{{User:UBX/P.O.D.2}}
This user is a fan of P.O.D..
{{User:UBX/Alive}}
This user feels so alive.


[edit] Genre on When angels and serpents dance

Any Sources that when angels and serprents dance is rapcore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.211.87.17 (talk) 18:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Rapcore

I've added Rapcore to the genre's because it is very obvious that they are and if their are any objections don't be afraid to speak up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.160.135 (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Metal?

Why do you call them metal when I haven't ever heard screams, growls, Or heavy guitars in any of their songs so why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.161.30 (talk) 14:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)