Talk:P. G. T. Beauregard

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This guy was pretty awesome he almost won the war for us. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilBR (talkcontribs) 02:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


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[edit] Slaves

Wierd how he was in favor of slaves afterwards... Hippocrit?

It may seem that way from a 21st century perspective, but possibly not. He seems to have joined the Confederacy because he considered his country to be Louisiana, not from a personal desire to promote slavery. Of course it's hard to second guess how someone thought in such a very different time and place. -- Infrogmation 16:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Ditto. And, let's face it, people back then knew slavery was wrong... Beauregard was a professional soldier, doing what the other professionals were doing. Engr105th (talk) 07:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Virginia has a street named after Beauregard

Virginia should stop naming its streets after Confederate bigots like Beauregard. Virginia has a street named "Lee Highway." This is a traitorous thing.

Did you bother to read the article? Unlike many other prominent Confederates, Beauregard was fairly progressive, at least by 19th century standards. And if you don't like having something named after a Confederate General, say the street commemorates him as the inventor of the cable-car. :-) Cheers, -- Infrogmation 16:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images

P.G.T. Beauregard
P.G.T. Beauregard
Pierre Gustave Toutant de Beauregard
Pierre Gustave Toutant de Beauregard

I moved two of the images previously illustrating this article to talk. -- Infrogmation 15:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Civil War Was Not About Slavery

Just like World War II was not about Anti-Semitism, or the Iraq War being fought to 'free' the Iraqis from Saddam Hussein. Wars are usually fought for economic dominance. Just because Beauregard fought for the south, does not necessarily make him a bigot or in favor of slavery. What reasons he chose to fight for the Confederacy are not exactly clear in this article, the truth may be a little more complicated than you may understand.(TAGE)

[edit] POV

Can the people that are calling Beauregard a "bigot" and a "hippocrite" perhaps get a life (and a history lesson). This is a professional article not a blog so keep your stupid opinions to yourself, nobody wants to hear your ranting. But you do have a right to have an opinion just try to be civil about it ok?

P.S. I'm a decendent of the so called "bigot" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.221.246.75 (talk) 01:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere (will try to find it) that his first language was French; he didn't speak English until in his teens. Is that correct? Things were much more regional in those days...By the way, I think he is underappreciated today - best I can tell he never lost any battles...Engr105th (talk) 07:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Best I can tell, you haven't read Battle of Shiloh. :-) Although I agree with you that he was underappreciated, he actually fought a lot fewer battles than other generals of his rank [other than Cooper]. Hal Jespersen (talk) 23:01, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
DOH ! Yeah, Shiloh...you got me - I forgot that one. (but, I think he shared command w/ Johnston..?)...Anyway, PGTB coulda/shoulda been used more than he was. His work in Va showed his talent. Engr105th (talk) 23:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Louisiana Creole people

He was a Creole of Louisiana, please place the category at the top of the page. Or tell me how to do it. --Margrave1206 (talk) 17:46, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

The article already is within category:Louisiana Creoles. -- Infrogmation (talk) 23:12, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 4th Alabama

I have removed the passage about Beauregard leading a charge of the 4th Alabama at First Manassas. Although a citation was provided for this claim, a look on Amazon implies to me that this is a children's book. In Lee's Lieutenants, volume 1, page 65, Douglas Southall Freeman goes into a bit of detail about this incident. Johnston and Beauregard found men of the Alabama regiment scattered among others. "Johnston found its flag bearer, put the boy by his side, called for the soldiers and rode forward. ... Beauregard designated one of Bee's staff officers to act as their Colonel; around these steady soldiers and the Virginians [i.e., Jackson's men] on their left, others quickly gathered. Soon the line was restored in the face of federals who were moving up the slope in front and on the right for another assault." In Beauregard's report, he wrote that Johnston "impressively and gallantly charged to the front, with the colors of the fourth Alabama by his side." Years later, writing in Battles and Leaders, he indicated that both he and Johnston charged forward. Since we are talking about putting men into a defensive line, I don't believe that any of this post-battle bluster on Beauregard's part is worth including in this brief biography. Hal Jespersen (talk) 22:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)