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[edit] Lacrosse in Australia

Hi Daren, Luke Oswald here. I saw your note in the lacrosse discussion about the very USA-focussed article and agree. I am taking it upon myself to create a page called "Lacrosse in Australia" (not published as yet) which will have info about the history, development and future of the game in Australia. I have already gathered some records of national championships winners and league winners in the various states, though some lists are incomplete, as well as a page about the Australian Lacrosse League. As more info is gathered it may be necessary to split the page up, maybe have pages for each state, we'll see how it goes. I think the way forward with this is to set up a WikiProject. I will invite other people to add info as they please. There are quite a few aussies that go on The Lacrosse Forums that would probably be able to add info. It will also be necessary to back up info as required should people get too biased with their articles!!

Cheers - Luke - Lukeoz 10:28, 27 January 2006 (UTC) (message back at User_talk:Lukeoz)

[edit] Adelaide Uni Lacrosse

Hello Daren. At the moment, the club does appear to meet the notability guidelines in that does not appear to be sufficiently sportingly notable, as it is an amateur/social-level club, and isn't at first-class standard. The historical notability is quite weak - it has been around a long time, but many old high schools also have old sports clubs, and many of these have been deleted also. The third thing, as a declared party in the subject of the article, that will also raise eyebrows, as it is peripherally related to WP:AUTO -atuobiography is discouraged.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 02:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I have looked at the page and have replied there. I deleted all the other UniMelb sports teams a while before I stumbled across the lacrosse club.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aussie / Adelaidian?

Here's an Aussie welcome! (G'day!) Take a look at a the Australian Wikipedians' Noticeboard and if you're from the fine city of Adelaide feel free to jump on deck and give us a hand at WikiProject:Adelaide.

Best of luck here, I'll be watching your edits! michael talk 23:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barossa Germans

Where to next? Rewrite it in your own words. Gsl 07:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Just received an email by an author of some of the work. He claims copyright and does not want his work used on wikipedia. I'm not really sure he did most of the work on this as it seems to appear in many places and is claimed by them or is allowed to be copied. In any case I'm quite prepared to find other sources or even track down original newspaper articles etc. Ozdaren 13:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing wrong with using the article you copied as a source for your own article but you can't necessarily copy verbatim. As it says down the bottom of every edit page "Only public domain resources can be copied without permission—this does not include most web pages." And someone saying their work is "free for republishing" or "freely redistributable" does not necessarily mean it is compatible with the GFDL -- they might not want their work modified, and they certainly might want to be attributed as the source. So the safest course is to write the article in your own words and list any web pages you used as sources in an ==External links== section. Gsl 23:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at / help out with this in-progress article if you're interested in German history in SA. Interestingly, I only just got up to the Barossa Valley part of it so if wish to - please feel free to assist! michael talk 08:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I give in. There are too many ins and outs of wikipedia for a novice user to fathom. I think I will limit myself to adding minor bits of content to existing articles and tidying. I'm going about this all the wrong way. Ozdaren 10:14, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Give in? Why? We just can't copy other stuff - we write our own! michael talk 10:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
No I understand the principles of copyright. I even looked up the Australian Copyright Council pages to assertain how far the laws go in Australia. What I meant was a personal reflection on the lack of depth in my contribution to wikipedia so far. Perhaps I gave too much of a public airing to a private musing. Ozdaren 12:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm, now if I understand that correctly, and I'm rusty ;), unfortunately I don't really know any one who speaks it as a first language any more - the only person I knew who spoke it all the time sadly passed away late last year, and she was about 75... So no real hope there for anyone under 60! There are plenty of "authentic" Old Germans in the Barossa who try it on for the tourists though. As an aside, though I can understand Deutsch, Ich spreche nicht Deutsches (roughly correct, ja?). I can piece together much kaputt Deutsches! Prost, ABVS1936 17:48, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lacrosse

The lacrosse article is heavily biased in favour of US lacrosse. I believe the article should be improved. Have your say on their talk page. Ozdaren 04:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC) Hi Daren I haven't worked on those pages for a while now. Please let me know which ones in particular should be edited, cheers... Luke Lukeoz 14:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi Daren I haven't worked on those pages for a while now. Please let me know which ones in particular should be edited, cheers... Luke Lukeoz 14:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nicolau dos Reis Lobato

You: Saw your work on this page. Thanks for dropping by. Ozdaren 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Me: Thank you. It was rather small. But you know: Small is Beautiful. Please remain in touch. --Bhadani 14:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HTC

If that is true, then well done. I know very little about the HTC/ASUS. I was merely implementing the consensus of, what appears to be, a whole host of uninformed people :) -- Avi 14:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Then your expertise in updating/correcting that set of articles will be greatly appreciated! -- Avi 14:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WikiProject Lacrosse

I have created a proposal for a new WikiProject about lacrosse, and I thought you might be interested in joining. Please check out the temporary project page at User:MrBoo/WikiProject Lacrosse and sign your name if you are interested.

Thanks --MrBoo (talk, contribs) 02:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of rowing blades

Have you see this page? --evrik 17:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] blocked?

This user's request to have the autoblock on his/her IP address lifted has been DECLINED.

N-th block, didn't waste any time after last one expired

  • Blocking admin: not provided.
  • Decline reason:

not an autoblock, no reason to unblock -- ST47Talk 22:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

You're editing from a school, and are unable to edit? can you log out(at the school) and write down the IP address that appears at the top right of the webpage, so I can look at your situation? Reply here or User talk:ST47, i've watched your page. ST47Talk 01:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

O,h you put it there. I should read more :P looks like some people from your school have been vandalizing. If you like, I can take a look at it and make a report, contact the school and work on getting it unblocked ST47Talk 01:08, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I went home.It's only a minor inconvenience. Ozdaren 02:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] .svf files

Hi Daren.

Photoshop is designed as a raster image editor, and so it is not equipped to edit .svg files. A .svg file is xml, so if you want to, you can just edit the file with a text editor. This is what I do.

If you want to change the color of a solid blade, you would need to change the bold text:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd">
<svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" width="500" height="230">
  <defs>
    <linearGradient id="loomGradient" x2="0%" y2="100%">
      <stop offset="0%" style="stop-color:black;" />
      <stop offset="25%" style="stop-color:lightgray;" />
      <stop offset="60%" style="stop-color:black;" />
     </linearGradient>
    
    <linearGradient id="ridgeGradient" x2="0%" y2="100%"> 

      <stop offset="0%" style="stop-color:#800000;" /> 
      <stop offset="45%" style="stop-color:#A00000;" />
      <stop offset="55%" style="stop-color:#600000;" />
      <stop offset="100%" style="stop-color:#800000;" />
    </linearGradient>
    
    <radialGradient id="fadeRidgeGradient" cx="0%" cy="50%" r="100%">
      <stop offset="50%" style="stop-color:#800000; stop-opacity:0"  />
      <stop offset="95%" style="stop-color:#800000;" />
    </radialGradient> 

    
    <path id="spoonPath" d="M 105,75 C 105,76 106,77 107,77 C 139,89 170,149 177,181 C 231,199 389,201 455,201 C 458,201 461,198 461,195 L 450,27 C 450,24 447,21 444,21 L 113,43 C 112,43 111,44 111,45  Z" />

    <clipPath id="spoonClip">
      <use xlink:href="#spoonPath"/>
    </clipPath>
  </defs> 

  <use xlink:href="#spoonPath" style="stroke:Black; stroke-width:1; fill:#800000;" />
  <g transform="rotate(9) translate(117,41)">
    <rect x="-200" y="-14" height="28" width="200"  style="stroke:Black; stroke-width:1; fill:url(#loomGradient);" />  

    <rect x="0" y="-15" height="30" width="200" class="spoon" style="stroke:none; fill:url(#ridgeGradient);" />
    <rect x="0" y="-15" height="30" width="200" class="spoon" style="stroke:none; fill:url(#fadeRidgeGradient);" />
  </g>
  <g clip-rule="nonzero" clip-path="url(#spoonClip)" opacity="0.9">
  </g>
  <g>
    < !--Put deign in here-->
  </g>

</svg>


If you want to create a blade with a design, I recommend drawing the design in Inkscape, then copy the design svg into the blade template. Please let me know how I goes. Let me know if you get stuck.

Gary van der Merwe (Talk) 08:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Lacrosse

You asked whether I knew more about the ELA - sadly no. I've moved overseas so anything I did know is certainly out of date now. I know it used to consist of the NELA and SEMLA (north and south) but I see that someone else (Flandersuea) has edited the page to mention NEMLA and SEMLA - perhaps the name changed? I think I'll drop a line to the ELA, they're bound to be able to find someone who can add some useful info. Thrapper 19:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A question about the article on Udo Lindenberg

Hi, Daren!

Thanks for your contribution, I used to be a fan of his songs.

In the album tables, I guess the letters D, A, CH mean Germany (Deutschland), Austria and Switzerland (Confederatio Helvetica), what else? But I don't understand what precisely the figures stand for.

Would you be kind enough to explain?

Cheers, Zack Holly Venturi 10:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Batu Lintang camp

Hi Daren, thanks for your lovely comments - it's always great to get positive feedback (said she, fluffing up her feathers). About using Commonwealth English: the Wikipedia Manual of Style basically says (and I'm paraphrasing wildly here) if the topic is specific to a country or nationality, then that version of English should be used; otherwise the English of the original author should be used. As I'm English, and as far as I've found out there were only a handful of Americans in the camp, which was liberated by the Australians with some assistance from the Americans, there was no reason to write in American English. (I did have to change my article on Agnes Newton Keith to US English, which felt very odd). The relevant bit of the MoS is at [1]. The US/Commonwealth English malarkey can get quite heated, with people changing spelling to what they perceive as the "correct"" spelling.

BTW - I see you are a rowing coach. I rowed at stroke and 6 for a few years, but sadly now live in an area of shallow chalk streams rather than decent rivers, so haven't got in a Janousek for quite a while now ... My one claim to fame was that I (many moons ago) rowed in the same race as Steve Redgrave - Head of the River in London, with the men's crews setting off first. I think he was in the bar long before we even started, but technically it was the same race. Didn't beat his crew (Thames Tradesmen, I think - but this was some 20-odd years ago ...), mind you! Cheers Jasper33 10:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Nah, Leicester Rowing Club - far less glamorous. We used to row on the canal which was only wide enough to turn fours, so our first crew outing as an eight was for the race itself on the very choppy, tidal Thames. I have a photo taken from a bridge in which we are all miraculously in time, pulling nice puddles and looking pretty together. Pretty fluky, as it must have been the only such stroke in the whole race! I'd rowed in eights at uni in the early eighties so having to downsize to fours at Leicester was a bummer. That, and getting gobbed on from a bridge by the football supporters on their way to/from Filbert Road football ground ... Maybe I don't miss rowing after all! Jasper33 15:32, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Come Back

So sorry to see you leave CP. Is there anything I can do to convince you to come back?Ostap R 16:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks Ozdaren, you make life so much easier for some reason... and who is this guy who seems insistent on edit ONLY St. Mark's College pages to get them deleted? Is there any way I can have him banned? If you look at his contribs. there is an obvious pattern of him only looling at and trying to delete pages related to St. Mark's. Please help, we're only a small group of amatuer wikipedians but our hearts are in the right places! Feel free to comment/reply on my talk page. BTW I'm a Barossa German too! Cheers, ABVS1936 16:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Daren, the aforesaid stirrer seems intent on removing the pages through lack of notability, since there is clearly no lack of sources for the article content. Wikipedia as I understand it has two thresholds of verifiability - in order to be included at all, the article must cite sources that determine its notability, that is, whether it is commented on by outside unrelated bodies (such as a newspaper) in any great detail. Once that is determined, article size is not limited, you can go for your life with additional sources including as published by the article subject, but it must first be determined to be notable. As for AUBC, we both know that it is notable, but the sources on the internet don't really determine this - we've only determined the notability of various members of the club. What's needed is a few newspaper articles commenting on the club. I think there was one a few years ago when the Men's Eight rowed a 5:46 at mannum, that'd do. Or anything else from the 'Tiser. Do they have an electronic database that one can look up?--Yeti Hunter 05:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable

Image:Sundaymail97winning4.jpg Adelaide University Boat Club. Winners 1997 City of Adelaide sprint regatta. Yeah there are quite a few. I'll ask Steve P, Dave C or even Edwin M or Öst. Ozdaren 07:53, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barossa German

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[edit] AfD for St. Mark's College

Hi Ozdaren, the St Mark's article has been nominated at AfD if you're interested. Located here if you'd like to contribute to the discussion. Cheers, ABVS1936 14:29, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Done Ozdaren 15:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] University Oval, (Park 12) Adelaide

The significant part of the message is

needs sources or references that appear in reliable, third-party publications . Alone, primary sources and sources affiliated with the subject of this article are usually not sufficient for an accurate encyclopedia article

Adelaide City Council would be a primary source in regards to the parks and ovals it maintains. Garrie 23:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

I am not disputing the reliability of ACC. It is just that in this instance they are a Primary source. As such they cannot be used to assert the notability of the parks they maintain, just as they cannot be used to assert the notability of the Mayor, or the Town Hall, or anything else for which they are a primary source of information. Or are the parks maintained by some body other than the ACC? In which case the article is misleading but the primary source tag is misplaced.Garrie 01:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC) In any case - there are now ample secondary sources and the tag is no longer appropriate. But I disagee with your edit comment that "it was totally unnecessary in the 1st place" - that is the type of comment which is best left off edit summaries, it tends to inflame situations and doesn't add anything to your editing. You obviously don't see it as releveant at the time you remove it, stating "Article is not totally reliant on primary sources" would be a lot less likely to lead to an arguement. Garrie 01:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't challenge the reliability of ACC.

I didn't say anyone used primary sources "badly".

What I put the tag there for, was because primary sources cannot be used to assert notability. And a common opinion is, all articles should be about notable topics and assert that notability.

Regardless of weather you or I agree with WP:N, "a lot of contributors do" so meeting it will help ensure that a given article does not get deleted.

The problem has been fixed now that secondary sources are on the article. I am sure every contributor has different opinions about how to make Wikipedia "better". In regard to this one article, my opinion was, it needed material to be added to it which could be cited to sources independent of ACC. This has been done and now the article is better than it was.Garrie 02:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kegel

G'day Daren. Thanks for fixing those stuff-ups. I'm in two minds about whether to call the article "kegel (bowling)" or "kegeln". (Kegel is already taken.) In Australia, it seems to be called "kegel", without the "n". What do you reckon? Grant | Talk 14:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unspecified source for Image:Sundaymail97winning4.jpg

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Osama perhaps you should look at the image more closely. Ozdaren 13:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hi

Hi Daren. I guess I didn't really 'give up' on wikipedia as such, although in practice I did. I just go through these phases where I will concentrate on one particular thing, and then all of a sudden, I can't be bothered anymore. How did you know it was my page? (Sorry for the late reply, but this is the first time that I have checked my page in a long while.)

Jav

[edit] Park 10 Unreferenced Material

I will delete any unreferenced material in a week. Username nought 11:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Easy there daz, NPA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeti Hunter (talk • contribs) 14:30, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prosh

Looks good. Is this for a subsection of the main Prosh page? If so, some of the information might be duplicated elsewhere (eg Prosh Newspaper). But I reckon it's good. Would be great to find a picture of the Vee dub hanging from the bridge. Surely it was extensively photographed when it happened.--Yeti Hunter 00:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it should. Been going over 100 years, plenty of independent sources (advertiser, ABC radio, University pages just off the top of my head), great cultural event. Do it.--Yeti Hunter 10:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Don't forget to move the current Prosh page to Prosh (University of Western Australia) when you do it.--Yeti Hunter 10:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notable Australian mass murders

I've just fixed that reference you appeared to be struggling with at the Notable Australian mass murders article. You might like to call past that article if you like to see one version of how it's done. -- Longhair\talk 13:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

No struggles, but thanks for your concern all the same. Ozdaren 14:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robin Millhouse

Hi. The reason I uploaded the first one was for his involvement in the South Australian general election, 1975, and it was the only image available. I found a much better one which actually gives his face definition. As it is being used under fair-use which is in itself dubious, having two images im sure wouldn't last long. Timeshift 08:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

In that case my suggestion would be to get the entire source photo and not just the crop, and really try and disassociate it from Millhouse without making the photo useless as a reference to him and Prosh. And of course upload it with it's own unique non-free fair-use rationale. Timeshift 10:30, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Ruby Rich (disambiguation)

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[edit] Willoughby

Hi Daz, I'm travelling at the moment so I don't have access to my records. I'm not sure if he was ever a marksman, though I'm quite sure he was captain of AUBC late in the 1970s. He was on the committee a lot. I'll have a look when I'm back. Yeti Hunter (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Annesley College

No worries Ozdaren. Had nothing to do today so thought I would give it a go, most of the substance is just what I learned from the college website though as I don't know much about it. Cheers! Loopla (talk) 12:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oxbridge Cup

So it is, I couldn't remember off the top of my head. I'll change it when I get a chance--Yeti Hunter (talk) 23:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)