Talk:Oyster card (pay as you go) on National Rail

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[edit] Roll out

Should we include the rollout of equipment for London Overground? e.g Kentish Town West: validators fitted Gospel Oak: gates with wide gate fitted Mattdickinson 17:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if it's necessary, as the plan is for the whole network to be covered from the outset. It may be that some stations accept it before LO starts (I know Walthamstow Queen's Road is one), but nothing major will happen until November. D-Notice 17:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Walthamstow Queen's Road doesn't actually have any gates or validators yet. I don't know quite why the BBC picked it for their news story PAYG at Walthamstow Queen's Road Mattdickinson 16:36, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

South Acton now has validators 217.34.40.115 15:12, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

West Hampstead railway station has Oyster readers and posters up saying you can use Oyster PAYG now. Their website still hasn't been updated to reflect this, nor has TfL's, but keep your eyes open for updates. --Cnbrb 00:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Connections between Underground and National Rai

How will charging work for journeys involving a connection between Underground and National Rail lines? Some stations such as Farringdon have a single set of ticket barriers giving access to both Underground and National Rail services. Since the central part of the Thameslink network is included in Pay as you Go, I assume (?) that Thameslink stations count as Underground stations for ticketing purposes - i.e. if you touch in at Paddington, take a Circle Line train to Farringdon, then a First Capital Connect train to Blackfriars, you will be charged for a single zone 1 tube journey. Some stations even have Underground and National Rail trains calling at the same platforms (e.g. the Richmond branch of the District Line). Most stations, however, have separate ticket barriers for Underground and National Rail. Is the Oyster system supposed to recognise when you've made a "free" connection by touching out and back in at the same station within a short time interval, or will it charge for two separate journeys? How does it currently work at Liverpool Street? It seems unsatisfactory to have free connections available at some stations and not others, due to the arbitrary layout of barriers. Mtford 23:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Interchanges with barriers that must be passed through are set up as continuation interchanges, such as Liverpool Street. However, changing from National Rail to the Underground where there are gates only on the Underground can lead to unresolved journeys if touching out on the National Rail validator is missed. Mattdickinson 11:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)