Talk:Oyster Bay (hamlet), New York

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[edit] Difference between the Town and the Hamlet of Oyster Bay

So there is no village of Oyster Bay? Which village is Oyster Bay High School in? (I ask because it is where Thomas Pynchon went to high school). -- Jmabel 10:01, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

Oyster Bay "village" is technically a hamlet, not a village. The community is within the Town of Oyster Bay, a town which contains 18 villages and 18 hamlets. So the town of Oyster Bay is not the exact same thing as the Hamlet of Oyster Bay. The Hamlet is where OBHS is located. The term "Hamlet" is often used in state's statutes to refer to well-known populated sections of towns that are not incorporated as villages.

[edit] Oyster Festival

Does someone want to add information about the oyster festival?

You could add it yourself, but it doesn't deserve an entire paragraph; just a line or two indicating when it takes place, when it started, and the average attendence. There are other Oyster Festivals besides the one in Oyster Bay. The Norwalk, Connecticut Norwalk Oyster Festival started a few years before the OB one, and they often book well-kown musical acts (Willie Nelson, Cheap Trick, etc.). Here's the OB Oyster fest website if anyone wants to look:

http://www.theoysterfestival.org/

[edit] Notable Resident Section

There are currently two sections, one for "notable past residents" and one for "notable residents," this seems redundant.

I don't think we should include every single person in show business or athletics who happens to live in or near Oyster Bay. I can understand a former President like Roosevelt or a notable author like Pynchon (who has roots in Oyster Bay, didn't move there after becoming rich) being listed, but someone like Victoria Gotti, who has done nothing notable in Oyster Bay (besides being the daughter of a serial killer), I don't think needs to be on this page.

I'm going to delete the "notable residents" section, so if you want to include those people, you can add it to the existing section on famous residents.

[edit] Recent News Section

I removed a new section called "Recent News" which mentions a fire at the local Hardware shop. I removed this section because it is non-encyclopedic; this page is not for the purposes of posting local news (there are already links to the local papers). This space is also not for the purposes of advertising your business, so the fact that a Hardware store burnt down is not notable enough to be included here. (nor are the other arson-related fires that happened in the Summer of '05, even if it is a senstaionalistic story, it wasn't national news.)

A news story which I'd like to see included here (and which is more relevant to the page and to the future of the town) is the purchase of several pieces of property by Charles Wang, CEO of Computer Associates and Oyster Bay Cove resident. He bought over 50 residences and commercial properties in downtown Oyster Bay in the late nineties and has been planning on 'revitilizing' the town. I'll try to post some relevant links when I have the time, but that is a much bigger news story (as is the Avalon Bay protests) which isn't even mentioned on the page.

[edit] Requested move

Where is the discussion? What is the rationale? The talk pages did not get moved in parallel? Residents of the TOB refer to it as TOB - especially to make it clearly distincr froim the hamlet. I believe residents of other TOWNS on LI do the same - Hempstead, Huntington, Babylon, etc. Plus there are now loads of redirects --JimWae 04:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Support the move: it is a CDP, and therefore deserves so to be named. Nyttend 14:09, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose this move & the move of Town of Oyster Bay, New York to Oyster Bay, New York. The name Oyster Bay is commonly understood to refer to the hamlet - so Oyster Bay, New York should be for the hamlet, just as Islip, New York goes to the hamlet & CDP. When LIers wish to talk about the TOB, they specify "Town" - & usually "Town of Oyster Bay". Wikipedia policy is to name article per the most common usage. According to this policy Town of Oyster Bay, New York would also be preferable to Oyster Bay (town), New York. However, both moves have already been made - prior to an iota of discussion. Wait, is this the discussion for yet another move?!? --JimWae 06:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
    • If it is some concern for consistency that is driving this, should not EVERY hamlet be renamed to a CDP? If that's the case, the discussion should not be confined to Oyster Bay --JimWae 06:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)