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[edit] Hello

Hi --Owwmykneecap 20:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Some Cyberpunk reading

I saw your request on Talk:Cyberpunk, and thought I'd throw some titles your way. A couple anthologies that are pretty accessible are Mirrorshades, edited by Bruce Sterling, and Burning Chrome, by William Gibson, et al. For a few novels, try Gibson's Sprawl trilogy (Neuromancer, Count Zero, and Mona Lisa Overdrive), and Hard Wired by Walter Jon Williams. — Wwagner 20:03, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks i ll try pick up the sprawl trilogy Owwmykneecap 02:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Burning Chrome preceded the trilogy and encapsulates the mood and character: in my opinion it's a good starting place, especially if you like SF short stories. ..dave souza, talk 20:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Neal Stephenson is a much better writer than Gibson, Snow Crash is the best cyberpunk book I've ever read.GordyB 20:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Britain and Irish Lions

Ireland is not in Britain but your sentence implied that Britishness is something limited to Britain. It is not, Falkland Islanders are British but don't live in Britain, ditto Gibraltarians, prior to the 1950s Canadians, New Zealanders and Australians all had British passports. EVen people born in the Irish Republic are entitled to British passports if born before 1948. The sentence as it stands says that the people of RoI and some in the North don't consider themselves British. Nothing untrue about that.

The Shamrock symbol was decided by a vote, it was not my preferred option (the St Pats Cross) but that's the way it goes. Nobody suggested a harp, but I think it would not have worked as Leinster Rugby use a harp. It is a religious symbol but it does appear on the Ireland shirt and it is neither a Catholic or Protestant symbol nor a unionist nor a nationalist one.

The situation of Ireland is different from other countries because Ireland is composed of two political entities and has no agreed neutral flag. The IRFU four province flag looks a mess when shrunk.GordyB 20:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I think the Leinster flag is a POV issue, I can see Mustermen objecting to it let alone Ulstermen. In any case, it is not for me to say yay or nay. Bring it up here.
The IRFU logo is a total no-no. We are entitled to 'fair use' of their symbols and what you suggest would go far beyond fair use.
Any issue involving 'Britishness' is complex and any involving 'Irishness' is complex. Any issue involving a combination of the two is going to be a major headache. I am not committed to the particular wording of the passage you object to, it is the result of minor edit wars. People in the Republic of Ireland aren't British (except for a handful of people with UK passports) and nationalists in Northern Ireland don't consider themselves British. A lot of mainland Britons don't consider themselves British, but legally they are. It would have made life a lot easier if the Lions had issued a statement when they changed their name but if they did I cannot find it.
Any replacement statement needs to reflect a lot of complex issues a) People in RoI aren't British b) Northern Irish unionists are (legally speaking and from an identity point of view) c) Northern Irish nationalists don't see themselves as British (many may carry UK passports despite this). A sentence like 'the name was changed because Ireland is not part of Britain' is flawed because some Irishmen are British and there are other territories that are British but not part of Britain.GordyB 19:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
You didn't say the Republic of Ireland is not part of Britain, you said 'Ireland is not part of Britain'. Had you said the Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
If someone has a British passport then legally they are British whether they like it or not. I'm far more English than British myself but a British nationality exists in law and English nationality does not.
Christian symbolism is everywhere whether we like it or not. Half the flags in Europe are Christian crosses. If you find it so offensive then you will have to take it up with somebody higher up in Wikipedia. I'm not an admin or sysop.GordyB 21:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Apologies. Yes you did use Republic of Ireland not Ireland but you wrote Britain rather than the UK. Although they are often treated as synonyms, they are not. United Kingdom includes Northern Ireland whereas Great Britain does not.
I agree that Shamrocks are twee and it is not my choice. Wikipedia is governed by consensus. There was a situation where some editors were using tricolours for all-Irish players whether from NI or RoI, others used the St Pats cross and others used tricolours and NI flags depending on circumstances. I wanted an agreement and so put it to a vote. Shamrocks won and most of those voting were Irish. I cannot having asked for a consensus, simply revert to using an entirely different symbol, it would be a mockery.
I don't think using the two 'national' Irish flags is workable. IMO it is nonsensical to put Ulster in a different category from Munster, they are both run by the IRFU. In any case Ulster is not strictly speaking a Northern Irish organisation as its remit covers the other three Ulster counties. See [1].GordyB 22:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Anyone born in Ireland is entitled to apply for Irish citizenship (provided that their parents were resident in Ireland for long enough). If you don't apply then you are not an Irish citizen. Substituting Britain for the UK implies that people in Northern Ireland aren't British since Northern Ireland is not part of Britain.
I don't want the use of different flags for Irish players because rugby union is an all-Ireland sport. Brian O'Driscoll and Willie John McBride played for the same national team, putting different flags next to their names implies that they played for separate RoI and NI teams. Some players will in any case not fit neatly into either category. A lot of Ireland players are 'exiles' and were born in neither territory, it would be extremely arbitrary to try to fit them into either category.
Using the IRFU logo would be a breech of copyright and would be taken down by somebody very quickly. The only way it could be done is if they gave you permission to use their logo. They are highly unlikely to do so because legally speaking the right to copyright is weakened if you do not defend your right to it i.e. by giving you permission to use it they are lessening their ownership of it. Their logo is worth a great deal of money to them as people will buy hats, scarves, T-shirts etc with it on, a lot of people will try to sell imitations which breech the copyright law; the IRFU need to be able to prevent them from doing so.GordyB 08:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I suggest you read Wikipedia:Fair use, according to this the only place you could use the IRFU logo is on the IRFU page itself (arguably the national team page might be justifiable). Other uses are breeches of copyright (different IRFU branch logos come under the same restriction).
I have updated the 'name' section of the British and Irish Lions largely based on what we have discussed. 'the Republic of Ireland hasn't been a part of the UK since 1922' - the since 1922 I have added because it helps explain why the Lions started in the first place and why the 'And Irish' part was not there from the beginning.GordyB 14:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop creating inappropriate pages: Rick O' Shea

Please refrain from creating inappropriate pages such as Rick O' Shea. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. ---Casper2k3 19:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Daigo Umehara

  • Given your history on Wikipedia thus far, forgive me if I simply dismiss your ideas on what makes Wikipedia bad. Danny Lilithborne 20:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Oh, and... Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Danny Lilithborne 21:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by administrators or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. Danny Lilithborne 03:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
        • This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. Danny Lilithborne 03:14, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Please, gentlemen. Remember, we are here to write an encyclopedia, not to have flamewars. If you can't get along, try to ignore each other. Zocky | picture popups 03:34, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: ripper page

Myspace pages are not generally considered reliable sources, especially since anyone can set one up and claim to be anyone else. Caper13 04:17, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

If you want to re-add it, include a valid published source to back up the reference. Otherwise, its going to get reverted again. Caper13 04:22, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I removed the link to the myspace mirror from the talk page. I felt especially given this guy is apparently no longer a suspect, there was no justification to have it anymore per BLP. Hope you're not offended. Cheers Nil Einne 15:33, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re:"qwertyu"

Hi, I removed your post because it is not really an appropriate comment to make on a talk page. Talkpages are not forums, they are for discussing changes to the article or suggestions for improvement. Bob talk 01:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Graeme Gilbert

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