Talk:Out of Reach

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	Out of Reach was one of the Arts good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones Date Process Result February 11, 2007 Good article nominee Listed February 7, 2008 Good article reassessment Delisted Current Status: Delisted good article

Contents 1 Assessment 2 As for the album itself 3 GA pass 4 Fair use rationale for Image:Can-Out of Reach (album cover).jpg 5 Good article reassessment 6 Pitchfork Media review

[edit] Assessment

Just been improving this article. I think it fits the start-class stage now.--HisSpaceResearch 16:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

In fact, I's say I think, given the work I've now done on it, that it's B-class, albeit a very short B-class given that there isn't really all that much I can say about this album.--HisSpaceResearch 18:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to be able to get this album to GA status, but I don't think there is enough information about it in existence to make that possible. Anyone got an opinion? --HisSpaceResearch 18:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The only other concern I have about it not being up to GA status (besides length as I just mentioned) is a fairly minor one about reliable sources. I mean, George Starostin and Mark Prindle may not be professional music critics, but they're pretty damned close. I'm gonna try for GA anyway.--HisSpaceResearch 19:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] As for the album itself

I feel the All Music Guide underrates the album. I rated it on Rate Your Music with 3.5 stars, and although critics have generally given it bad reviews, it'd be interesting to see an album that generally gets poor reviews achieve GA status.--HisSpaceResearch 21:57, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA pass

This article is a very short one, but it does have a wealth of information about its subject. It is well-researched and referenced, and remains neutral. However, I would suggest that the citation in the first paragraph that substantiates the release date should be removed, that need not be referenced. Another picture also would not hurt. Overall, however, I feel that this article deserves GA.ErleGrey 15:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

If you want to remove that citation yourself, that's your choice if you feel it's appropriate. As for the picture, I can't find any pictures of the band around this stage. As I've stated in the article, this is probably their least known studio recording...--HisSpaceResearch 05:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

References come after punctuation with no space [1]) should be )[1], References are also missing details such as publisher (website) date retrieved. The {{cite web}} can help with this. Also don't wikilink solo years such as 1997 M3tal H3ad 07:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how to use the cite web template.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 21:07, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I made the first one for you. You can use that as an example to make the remaining. All the best. - Anas ^Talk? 12:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Can-Out of Reach (album cover).jpg

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[edit] Good article reassessment

This article was nominated for good article reassessment to determine whether or not it met the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. --h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 12:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

The article was delisted. Please see the archived discussion for further information. Geometry guy 21:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pitchfork Media review

[1] I'm posting it here as a possible source for the article.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 21:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)