Template talk:Otherusesof

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Contents 1 Otheruses templates 1.1 Generic 1.2 Otheruses 1.2.1 Variations 1.2.1.1 For (other topic) 1.2.2 Other people 1.2.3 Other places 1.2.4 Otherhurricaneuses 1.2.5 Otherusesof (topic) 1.3 Redirect 1.4 "Not to be confused with"... 1.5 Notes 2 Discussion 2.1 Formatting 3 irresponsible 4 Someone should add the s 5 Capitalisation 6 TfD notice

[edit] Otheruses templates

To discuss these templates as a whole, please see Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation If you wish to discuss general wordings, rather than the wording or formatting of this specific template, don't post here, or else what you say will probably go unnoticed.

For a summary page on how to use these templates, see Wikipedia:Otheruses templates (example usage).

[edit] Generic

• {{Dablink|TEXT}}:
  TEXT

For example, {{dablink|For other senses of this term, see [[etc...]]}}. This template is adaptable, but fails to standardize hatnotes.

• {{Selfref|TEXT}}:

TEXT

(Similar to Dablink, but used for messages that wouldn't make sense on mirrors of Wikipedia, such as a link in the main article namespace that links to one in the Wikipedia namespace. See Wikipedia:Avoid self-references for more details.)

[edit] Otheruses

{{About}} is the main template for giving other uses; it redirects to {{otheruses4}}.

• {{otheruses4|USE1}} (disambiguous):
  This page is about USE1. For other uses, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2}}:
  This page is about USE1. For USE2, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2|PAGE2}}:
  This page is about USE1. For USE2, see PAGE2.
• {{About||USE2|PAGE2|USE3|PAGE3|USE4|PAGE4|USE5|PAGE5}} (alias and empty first param):

For USE2, see PAGE2. For USE3, see PAGE3. For USE4, see PAGE4. For USE5, see PAGE5.

• {{otheruses4|USE1|USE2|PAGE2|USE3|PAGE3|USE4|PAGE4|USE5|PAGE5}} (fully specified):

This page is about USE1. For USE2, see PAGE2. For USE3, see PAGE3. For USE4, see PAGE4. For USE5, see PAGE5.

[edit] Variations

There are also variations of {{about}}. These serve the same purpose, and are marginally easier to use for each individual purpose, but overall, it is complicated to have so many different templates; it could be argued that the time saved using them is lost as other editors have to familiarise themselves with them.

All of these templates are special cases of {{about}}.

• {{otheruses}}:
  For other uses, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).

Note: {{about}} will produce the same result.

• {{otheruses1|USE}}:
  This page is about USE. For other uses, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).

Note: {{about|USE}} will produce the same result.

• {{otheruses2|PAGE}}:
  For other uses, see PAGE (disambiguation).

Note: this simply adds "(disambiguation)" to what you input as PAGE.

• {{otheruses3|PAGE}}:
  For other uses, see PAGE.

Note: {{about|||PAGE}} will produce the same result - note the two empty parameters.

• {{otheruses5}}:
  For other uses, see Otherusesof (disambiguation) and Otherusesofs (disambiguation).

Note: this is for when there is both a singular and plural disambiguation page; it only works when the plural is formed simply by adding "s" at the end.

• {{otheruses6|PAGE1|PAGE2}}:
  For other uses, see PAGE1 and PAGE2.

Note: this is for when there are two disambiguation pages, such as noun and adjective, or singular and irregular plural. There are only two parameters and at least one is required.
Note: this cannot be recreated with {{about}} - only with {{dablink}} or {{for}}.

• {{This|USE|PAGE}}:
  This page is about USE. For other uses, see PAGE.

Note: {{about|USE||PAGE}} will produce the same result - note the empty parameter.

[edit] For (other topic)

{{for}} (and {{for2}}) can be used instead of {{about}} to not include the first part - "This article is about USE". However, this can also simply be achieved with an empty first parameter in {{about}}.
For example, {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}} becomes {{About||OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}}.

• {{For}} (disambiguous):
  For {{{1}}}, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{For|OTHER TOPIC}} (disambiguous):
  For OTHER TOPIC, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE}}:
  For OTHER TOPIC, see PAGE.
• {{For|OTHER TOPIC|PAGE1|PAGE2}}:
  For OTHER TOPIC, see PAGE1 and PAGE2.
• {{For2|OTHER TOPIC|CUSTOM TEXT}}:
  For OTHER TOPIC, see CUSTOM TEXT.

[edit] Other people

• {{otherpersons}} (disambiguous):
  For other persons named Otherusesof, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otherpersons|USE}} (disambiguous):
  For other persons named USE, see USE (disambiguation).
• {{otherpersons|USE|PAGE}}:
  For other persons named USE, see PAGE.
• {{otherpeople2|PAGE}}:
  For other persons of the same name, see PAGE.
• {{otherpeople3|USE1|USE2}}:
  This article is about USE1. For USE2, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otherpeople4|USE1|USE2|PAGE}}:
  This article is about USE1. For USE2, see PAGE.

[edit] Other places

• {{Otherplaces}}, analogous to {{Otheruses}}

• {{Otherplaces2}}, analogous to {{Otheruses2}}

• {{Otherplaces3}}, analogous to {{Otheruses3}}

[edit] Otherhurricaneuses

For articles on storms.

• {{otherhurricaneuses}} (disambiguous):
  For other storms of the same name, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otherhurricaneuses|DISAMBIG}}:
  For other storms of the same name, see DISAMBIG.
• {{otherhurricaneuses|DISAMBIG|THIS}}:
  This page is about THIS. For other storms of the same name, see DISAMBIG.
• {{otherhurricaneuses3|USE1|USE2|MAIN}}:
  This article is about the USE1. For the USE2, see the main article, MAIN. For other storms of the same name, see Otherusesof (disambiguation).

[edit] Otherusesof (topic)

• {{otherusesof}} (disambiguous):
  For other uses of "Otherusesof", see Otherusesof (disambiguation).
• {{otherusesof|TOPIC}}:
  For other uses of "TOPIC", see TOPIC (disambiguation).
• {{otherusesof|TOPIC|PAGE}}:
  For other uses of "TOPIC", see PAGE.

[edit] Redirect

• {{Redirectstohere|REDIRECT notice}} (To Document dependent link[s], Template also has a hidden mode, (Set "|hide=true") which enables it to document a section title is a redirect page target section, and so should not be changed.); Some examples:
  REDIRECT redirects here.,
  REDIRECT, Another name and A Foreign name all redirect to here.
  — with a little care, bolding the titled redirects can substitute for awkward phrases involving multiple name forms of the main article title; particularly those of the "also known as varieties"...
  Gustavus II Adolf, Gustav Adolphus II and Gustavus Vasa II of Sweden all redirect to here.
  
  
• {{Redirect|REDIRECT}} (disambiguous):
  "REDIRECT" redirects here. For other uses, see REDIRECT (disambiguation).
• {{Redirect|REDIRECT||PAGE}}:
  "REDIRECT" redirects here. For other uses, see PAGE.
• {{Redirect|REDIRECT|USE|PAGE}}:
  "REDIRECT" redirects here. For USE, see PAGE.
• {{Redirect2|REDIRECT1|REDIRECT2}} (disambiguous):
  "REDIRECT1" and "REDIRECT2" redirect here. For other uses, see REDIRECT1 (disambiguation).
• {{Redirect3|REDIRECT|TEXT}}:
  "REDIRECT" redirects here. TEXT.
• {{Redirect4|REDIRECT1|REDIRECT2}} (disambiguous):
  "REDIRECT1" and "REDIRECT2" redirect here. For other uses, see REDIRECT1 (disambiguation) and REDIRECT2 (disambiguation).
• {{Redirect6|REDIRECT|USE1|PAGE1|USE2|PAGE2}}:
  "REDIRECT" redirects here. For USE1, see PAGE1. For USE2, see PAGE2.
• {{Redirect6|REDIRECT|USE1|PAGE1||}}

[edit] "Not to be confused with"...

• {{Distinguish|PAGE}}:
  Not to be confused with PAGE.
• {{Distinguish2|TEXT}}:
  Not to be confused with TEXT.

[edit] Notes

Do not use subst: with these templates, as that will prevent:

1. propagating changes as the template is modified; and
2. the What links here (WLH) listing.

Please do not edit these templates unless you know what you are doing

These templates may be used in thousands of articles, and changing the syntax could therefore break thousands of articles. If you wish to edit a disambiguation template first ask yourself:

1. Is there already another template that will do this job? We have lots of disambiguation templates already, see Category:Disambiguation and redirection templates.
2. Do I really need a template for this? Will it ever get used on any other articles, or should I just use {{dablink}} instead?
3. Do I know what will happen if I change the parameters around? Will it break existing uses of the template, and if so, can I fix them all?

DO NOT EDIT THESE TEMPLATES UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

These templates may be used in hundreds of articles, and changing the syntax could therefore break hundreds of articles. If you wish to edit a disambiguation template first ask yourself:

1. Is there already another template that will do this job? We have lots of disambiguation templates already, see Category:Disambiguation and redirection templates.
2. Do I really need a template for this? Will it ever get used on any other articles, or should I just use {{dablink}} instead?
3. Do I know what will happen if I change the parameters around? Will it break existing uses of the template, and if so, can I fix them all?

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Formatting

Per WP:DAB guidelines, article titles should not be placed in italics in top links. Please keep this template in-line with existing guidelines and otheruses templates, or explain why we should switch to a new style of formatting. --Muchness 07:22, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

The word "italic" or "italics" appears nowhere on that page. In fact, the examples there are italicised. Other templates of this kind are fairly inconsistent. -- Netoholic @ 07:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

In the top link examples given on WP:DAB, the header sentences are italicized, but the article titles are not individually formatted. It was the article title formatting that I had issue with, since there's no precedent for this style of formatting in other widely used dab templates or in WP formatting guidelines. --Muchness 07:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] irresponsible

It seems really irresponsible to me to use this template and others like it. I just edited a page atop which a notice said

"For other uses of colour separation, see ..."

What it actually meant, as far as I could tell, was "For other uses of the TERM "colour separation", see...".

How about "For other uses of slave labor, see ..."?

Michael Hardy 01:12, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Seems to have been fixed now with the addition of double quotation marks. Hairy Dude 03:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Someone should add the s

''[[User:Kitia|Kitia]] 01:45, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalisation

For example on Pugs, {{otherusesof|pug}} yields:

However, titles of articles in hatnotes should have an initial capital, since that's the normalised form of article names (e.g. from {{PAGENAME}}). So this template should capitalise its second argument when it reuses it and adds " (disambiguation)" as the link. Unfortunately, since m:StringFunctions isn't installed on WP, this doesn't seem to be possible. Hairy Dude 02:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Aha, looks like there is something that does that actually. {{ucfirst:wibble}} yields "Wibble". Possibly this is undesirable given the existence of articles like eBay, but such cases are the exception. Hairy Dude 02:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD notice

I've nominated the Otheruses templates for discussion on Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. --JB Adder | Talk 14:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)