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Osceola appeared as a selected biography on the The Indigenous peoples of North America Portal on June 26, 2006.

You need to check the statistics. 200,000 looks off for the number of troops deployed - especially given the time and the size of the Army. The entire Army of the time was considerably less than 100,000 as I recall.

• I changed the size of the U.S. army to 40,000, based on what the Seminole Wars page has as the total. I think that's the best number to put there until a more accurate one is found (assuming there is one). MorrisGregorian 04:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Birthplace

All information I have indicates Osceola was born in Georgia, 1804, along the Tallapoosa River. Of course, borders may have changed since that time. And I'm not familiar with the area. Does the recent edit indicating that the birthplace is in present day Alabama ring true to anyone? I am reverting until a source can be presented. WBardwin 05:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

second edit with similar information. Source please. WBardwin 02:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I think someone should change the reference to "mixed birth" being an anomaly for a seminole. I know contains a cite for Seminole frowning on inter-marriage with whites, but Osceola was born a creek and later took refuge with the Seminole, the Creeks had no such inhibitions and their principal leaders (William Weatherford, Peter McQueen, etc.) were of mixed blood.

[edit] His wife was reclaimed

According to New International Encyclopedia, his wife was reclaimed as a slave in 1835. He became belligerent in 1835 following the seizure of his wife. He died in 1838, thus he could not have led any warriors during the conflict with the Caucasians which ended in 1842 or thereabouts. GhostofSuperslum 14:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Osceola never had command of as many men as 4000 as that probably exceeded the total number of combatants and women and children combined. For more correct detail check the works of Dr John Mahan former head of the History Department at the University of Florida, Gainesville. He is the American expert on the Second Seminole War though I believe he is now deceased.[User: Johncolby] 14:20, 25 Jan. 07

I took that paragraph out. As I've spent quite a bit of time on the Seminole Wars and Second Seminole War articles, I have a good collection of facts supported by reputable sources, and I'll try to work on this article when I get a chance. -- Donald Albury 02:22, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] As a mascot

I don't know if it should be mentioned, but "Chief Osceola and Renegade" is/are the mascot(s) for Florida State University. Zchris87v 22:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation?

Hi, could someone in the know add a phonetic transcription of the name? Is it something like [asi'olə] or [ə'ʃolə] or perhaps [a'ʃolə]? --babbage (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

That might be a bit hard to do. Yourdictionary.com gives äs′ē-ō′lə, the American Heritage Dictionary gives ǒ^sē-ōlə or ō^sē-ōlə and rootswebgives osEO´lu. Good luck in translating them into IPA. And I suspect that all of those pronunciations differ significantly from the original Creek. -- Donald Albury 21:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)