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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ostan98-mechbox.png

Image:Ostan98-mechbox.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] External link does not work

The link for trouble windows translations leads to a working page, however all sections lead to server errors. Delete the link? anger2headshot 02:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where are the non-Microsoft OS-tans

I'm just going to be blunt. I think it is flat-out POV to only include OS-tans of Microsoft operating systems. There is no reason for this, as some of the Microsoft ones are less popular than opensource ones. (Of course, this statement needs a source). If you are going to continue to only use Microsoft OS-tans, you need a source stating these are the most popular, and to at least mention the others.

-- trlkly 22:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Non-Microsoft OS-tans are pretty rare. I think only a couple of Mac girls are really "standardized". I believe a Linux-tan has appeared, but the more popular personification of Linux (from what I've seen) is the bearded penguin with a naginata and three penises. — Gwalla | Talk 16:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

multi-flavored Linux-tan: http://elkosmas.gr/2007/04/15/linux_girls_wallpapers_again/ Tux-tan: http://fotos.subefotos.com/adb35a8d570a4983a62362ceddf90698o.jpg 04:47, 26 August 2007 (UTC) 04:50, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

At one point, this article did have Linux-tan, girl-version. Also, the bearded penguin did show up too, as an alternate version. If anyone is seriously upset with this, it should be trivial to look back in History and grab the text/image with girl-version Linux-tan and paste it on the current version of the article. Forget the bearded penguin, though. He scares me.--Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves talk / contribs (join WP:PT) 14:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] xp-tan animation

I would add this to the article, but it's of unknown origin, perhaps someone knows more?

http://stage6.divx.com/user/Corne/video/1065260/hentai

[not hentai in the least, btw]02:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Group image caption

The caption of the group picture does not match the caption given when you click on the picture. Aside from variations (they should be merged into something better than either), they are inconsistent. I do not know enough about the subject to correct them. Would someone please fix them? --64.186.168.178 23:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

It is always very hard to find references for internet phenomena; this is inherent in the subject. Internet phenomena are not usually the focus of scientific research and no papers are published about them. Most articles that you can find on the Internet about such phenomena lack sources themselves and this makes it nigh impossible to tell whether what is said is a fact, an opinion or a fairy-tale. That said, this article is in desperate need of references; otherwise it might not survive a future deletion review, which would be a pity. 82.139.85.81 00:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Other"-tans

What about those? There exists one for Wiki and Firefox. KyuuA4 16:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

There are lots of OS-tans that are not included in this article. The list was in fact once much longer, but it was shortened because too much of it was original research and unverifiable. The ones listed in the article are the most notable and verifiable. Its difficult to add more because there are really no official source for os-tans, and depictions vary greatly from artist to artist, especially for os-tans outside the Windows family. But, the list doesn't really need to be exhaustive, and probably shouldn't be since most wouldn't be notable enough. The list we have now serves to give specific examples, and thats all it really needs to do. Additionally, there is already a wiki for os-tans, so it can provide readers with whatever this article may lack, and contributions to that wiki need not be bound by Wikipedia's standards.Nimrand 01:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] archive old talk discussion

Hi, this page is too long please archive any old discussion threads. Benjiboi 02:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Newly added OS-tans

Three new OS-tans were just added. Is there concensus that these three should be included? We had an extensive discussion about this not that long ago and a lot of the OS-tans were deleted. I just don't want people to keep adding to it indefinately. -- Nimrand (talk) 18:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

I noticed from the deletion discussion about sources in relation to this article. Recommend getting some links and dumping them here -- OR -- using them in the article.

Here's a sample, but it's not usable as it makes a direct reference to this article itself: http://www.wired.com/culture/design/multimedia/2007/04/gallery_mascots?slide=10&slideView=1

KyuuA4 (talk) 07:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

There have been constant sourcing issues in this article, and honestly I can't see why this article was kept yet again. While there are some sources there, they hardly source much and some of them I think are still questionable. For example the existence of a flash cartoon is being used to support conjecture about its place in os-tan history. Conclusions are being drawn and theories put forth for which there is no reliable source.--Crossmr (talk) 18:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
With a further look at these sources there doesn't appear to be a single reliable source about OS-Tans other than the wired article which references this wikipedia article (which makes its a questionable source at best). I notice in the previous Afd, there were lots of claims of how wide spread this was, but everyone failed to pony up some sources to back up those claims. The link itself hardly qualifies as significant coverage as required by the guidelines [1].--Crossmr (talk) 02:53, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] tan descriptions a bundle of OR

There is a lot of opinion expressed in these descriptions. A lot of editor opinions about what usually is done with them, a lot of subjective statements about how they're drawn, etc without any citation. Looking at a few pictures of each one and making a judgment call about what is usual, common, or why something is drawn a certain way is blatant original research.--Crossmr (talk) 02:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I suggest that we remove all the content in the examples section, and replace it with specific examples of published OS-tan drawings, and discuss details about only those examples (not how various os-tans are drawn in general). Unless we can find a suitable reference (which probably only exists in Japanese, if at all), its seems to be the only way to fix the OR issue. Also, I would suggest reducing the size of the list. Four should be enough, two example windows os-tans (which seem to be the most common), and one example os-tan for each of Linux and Mac.Nimrand (talk) 01:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding recent deletion of Windows 95 OS-tan image

I'm not following on why this image in particular was deleted. Reasons showed "No Justification" for the use of the non-free image. I wouldn't bring this to attention if it weren't for the fact the other OS-tan images, such as XP's and ME's, are equally at fault for it. Was there a reason other than the given one for the 95-tan image specifically to be deleted? If there wasn't, I humbly suggest bringing the image back if it's at all possible. Likewise, though I'm strongly against it, I humbly suggest deleting the other images as well unless there's some special case of exceptions I'm not seeing. King Arthur6687 (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Image rules are really complicated. I'll fix the ones that are still here. --Phirazo 00:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deleted OS-tans?

I recently noticed that CE-Tan and Windows Server-Tan were recently deleted and a discussion request was made to discuss on whether or not they should be addded.

My reasoning for adding them is that they are listed in the Canon-list of OS-tans on the OS-Tan wiki site. Are there any objections to re-adding them? Dasmarinas71 (talk) 20:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)