Talk:Orlando Ward

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The George S. Patton page says Ward's firing was Patton's only one, and was "after repeated warnings." This page makes the event sound unprovoked. Which is true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.162.16 (talk) 03:24, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

fixed link to wiki page (John User:Jwy talk) 06:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

We don't ask what is "true" here, only what is citable. But even then, the answer depends on what you mean by "unprovoked" and "warning." Not making progress could be considered a "provocation" and does strong "encouragement" to do something difficult rate as a "warning?" So both articles could be correct. I might quibble about the "repeated" part of the Patton article. I don't have the documentation here, but I know there are historians who believe Ward should not have been relieved. I'll look up further to see if I can be more precise about it. (John User:Jwy talk) 06:25, 23 November 2007 (UTC)