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Contents 1 City parks? 2 a picture 3 Famous people 4 famous people section 5 removing Barry university 6 Attractions 7 Climate 8 Sister cities Section -- Eiffel Tower 9 Photo request 10 Better night photograph needed 11 Spam, spam, spammity spam 12 Neighborhood sub-section. 13 Radio Stations 14 Gainesville? 15 City limits population over 300,000? 16 Demographics 17 Buena Vista 18 Kind of a wierd fact for the Introduction 19 Crime 20 Skyline Photo 21 Requested move 22 Cattle racing?

[edit] City parks?

I'm surprised there is no wiki article detailing the city's parks system. No time at the moment to make one, but figured I'd put forth the suggestion that one be made. 128.186.99.153 03:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] a picture

This page seriously needs a picture of the skyline of the city. spirobrewer 5:15 (American Central Time) 10 December 2006

Skyline pictures have been previously added multiple times by different users but are continously deleted for unknown reasons. I strongly suggest the addition of a current pernmanent skyline picture. Floridian06 (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Famous people

Are we now including the Orlando-Kissimmee Metropolitan Statistical Area with Melbourne, FL? I know many people tend to do this, but on paper Melbourne-Palm Bay-Titusville is another statistical area. Darrell Hammond and Carrot Top are NOT from the Orlando Statistical Area and thus should be removed and migrated to their respective cities/statistical areas. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.151.12.8 (talk) 17:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] famous people section

Anyone else notice that the external links section is riding up on the famous people section, I looked at the page and don't really see why its happening. Did I miss something obvious? I don't want to just put a bunch of br's in to make it go down lower. Matthewvelie 06:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks like someone fixed it since. It was probably an error in the way the table was put together. --ssd 17:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Im not necesarily an expert on the matter, but I don't believe Marilyn Manson has any connection to Orlando, so I question his being in the famous people section. Anyone have any clue what the connection is?

This list has been migrated to List of famous people from Orlando, Florida. Dr. Cash 03:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] removing Barry university

There's a nice GIS map, but it wants some cookies. Barry is actually two streets away from the Orlando border at the time of this writing. The city's jerrymandered all over the place, they're likely to annex Barry if it's worth anything anyway. IMHO if you reMOVE schools from a list like this, you need to MOVE them to the correct city or make a list for the unincorporated parts of the county anyway. --ssd 06:27, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

More than two streets, at least a mile. I agree with keeping all the regional schools, as long as the text makes it clear that they're not actually in Orlando (as it now does). --SPUI 10:47, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Attractions

I have to question the value of including Kennedy Space Center in the list of Orlando attractions. It's nearly an hour's drive down the Beeline Expressway (a toll road) and in a different county altogether (Brevard vs. Orange). KSC may be easily considered "within driving distance" and possibly a popular destination to visit while in Orlando for other reasons, but the connection with the city itself seems tenuous at best. --DynSkeet 14:32, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

It's sort of an Orlando attraction by association, since Orlando is the closest big city to the KSC. --b. Touch 15:05, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I disagree. If we are going to say that then we are lumping the Melbourne-Palm Bay-Titusville Metro area into that same mix, which by all appropriate standards it is not. We should distinguish Brevard County attractions from Orlando attractions. If we are going to include this, then we may include it in Central Florida or Space Coast Area Attractions section, the latter being more preferable by the Brevard County Chapter Chamber of Commerce.198.151.12.8 19:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Climate

The warmest temperature ever recorded in Orlando is 100°F. Funny that - the warmest temperature recorded in Gravesend, England is almost a degree warmer, despite the fact that Gravesend has to suffer the temperate, changeable British climate as opposed to the sunny, subtropical weather system that Orlando and the Florida tourist industry enjoys. --Andrew 09:44, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Uhm, great. What the hell does that have to do with Orlando? Nothing.198.151.12.8 19:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sister cities Section -- Eiffel Tower

The Eiffel tower is not made of copper, nor is it covered in copper paint. According to the officical Eiffel Tower website, it is made of puddle iron. "This iron is the result of a special baking technique relying on swirling during the liquid phase to prevent the carbon and the impurities in the metal from associating. It was quite well used in the 19th century all over Europe." (http://www.tour-eiffel.fr/teiffel/uk/pratique/faq/index.html)

I don't know if the replica at Epcot is made of copper, but the real one is made of iron.

Also, the tower in World Showcase, supposedly a gift form France, was there when the park opened in 1982, ten years before France opened it's Disney park so why would France give this gift to Orlando? a quote is needed, because that doesn't seems to be truth.

[edit] Photo request

Seine-et-Marne is particularly notable to Orlando, as it is the home of Disneyland Resort Paris. As such, the Départment gave Orlando a 1:13 scale model of the Eiffel Tower that now sits in the France area of the World Showcase at Epcot. It is made of copper just like the original, but additionally painted in copper paint. Since the France area is supposed to represent Paris at the end of the 19th century, the paint keeps the tower at Epcot from oxidizing into the typical green color of the original Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty, also copper.

A photo of this scale model would be nice to have added to the 'sister cities' section, to accompany the write-up. The write-up could use a reference citation as well. Dr. Cash 03:32, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Better night photograph needed

The current (July 17th, 2006) photograph of the skyline at night isn't very good. It's blurry and not level. --4.235.81.23 09:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)Tim G

[edit] Spam, spam, spammity spam

I'm getting sick of having to clear out the linkspam in this article every few days. Wikipedia is not an advertising resource. Let's focus on adding encyclopedic content to this article, instead of a free ad for our favorite tourist guide. -- SwissCelt 11:52, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm in agreement that the orlandoguide link does not appear to be "official" and thus should be removed per WP:SPAM. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 18:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

OrlandoAreaGuide.com is the official Area Guide for Central Florida Investments...One of the largest investors in Central Florida and the Largest purchasor of Walt Disney World tickets. CFI owns an number of brand name hotels, resorts, restaurants and other stores accross the US. It is one the companies based in the South East U.S. I proposed that OrlandoAreaGuide.com be readded. It has some of the most detailed attraction informatino and is growing daily. It also has it's own Wiki. >User:geniusboy ^Talk 21:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Currently a user is continuously added a advertising link, clamming it is a cited source. I've been removing this link but the person seems rather stubborn and did not discuss why the link must be here. I feel that the external link section should be removed, and if possible, the article be partially protected. The user's edits are[1] [2] [3] [4]. Aalox 15:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Since our anonymous editor decided to try claiming it was viable under WP:CITE for stating where the Lynx bus line travels, I decided to go straight to the source and cite Lynx's website. I will be keeping an eye out for the readdition of this, as it is not a necessary link and is commercial in nature. The Dark 16:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neighborhood sub-section.

I think that the "neighborhood" sub-section of the article is in need of more attention due to a few editors continuing to add unincorporated communities (outside the city limits), more commonly Conway, Dr. Phiilips, and Pine Hills. Yes, these areas have an Orlando P.O. address, but they do not lie within the city limits. --Moreau36 13:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

A large part of the problem is that the city limits look like abstract art. I'm not even sure if all the Waterford areas are part of Orlando proper. Mailing address alone isn't sufficient, since large parts of unicorporated Orange County have Orlando mailing addresses. I'm leaning toward the opinion that this is a rather useless list that's inaccurate and doesn't add to the article. The Dark 16:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Conway is the name of an officially designated neighborhood within the Orlando city limits. The Conway article mentions that parts of Conway have been annexed by the city, presumably the Conway neighborhood is made of these parts. The city GIS system could be used to generate an accurate list of officially designated neighborhoods.--HarryHenryGebel 12:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, this sub-section needs an overhaul. http://www.cityoforlando.net/planning/deptpage/neigh_index.htm this link seems to be a comprehensive list of neighborhoods in the Orlando city limits, which the list in the sub-section should be limited to. riffic 04:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Below are all the neighborhoods listed in the drop-down on this page, this is an official list of neighborhoods in the city of orlando. if it isn't on this list it shouldn't be on the neighborhood subsection in the article. riffic 04:57, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

33rd St Industrial Airport North Audubon Park Azalea Park Bal Bay Baldwin Park Bel Air Beltway Commerce Center Boggy Creek Bryn Mawr Callahan Camellia Gardens Carver Shores Catalina Central Business District City of Orlando/GOAA Clear Lake College Park Colonial Town Center Colonialtown North Colonialtown South Conway Countryside Coytown Crescent Park Delaney Park Dixie Belle Dover Estates Dover Manor Dover Shores East

Dover Shores West Eagles Nest East Central Park East Park Engelwood Park Florida Center Florida Center North Haralson Estates Hibiscus Holden Heights Holden/Parramore Johnson Village Kirkman North Kirkman South Lake Cherokee Lake Como Lake Copeland Lake Davis/Greenwood Lake Dot Lake Eola Heights Lake Fairview Lake Formosa Lake Fredrica Lake Mann Estates Lake Holden Lake Mann Gardens Lake Nona Central Lake Nona Estates Lake Nona South Lake Richmond

Lake Shore Village Lake Sunset Lake Terrace Lake Underhill Lake Weldona Lancaster Park LaVina Lawsona/Fern Creek Lorna Doone Malibu Groves Mariners Village Mercy Drive Metro West Millenia Monterey Narcoossee Groves New Malibu North Orange Northlake Park at Lake Nona Narcoossee South Orlando Executive Airport ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT Orwin Manor Palomar Park Central Park Lake/Highland Pershing Pineloch Princeton/Silver Star Randall Park

Richmond Estates Richmond Heights Rio Grande Park Rock Lake Roosevelt Park Rose Isle Rosemont Rosemont North Rowena Gardens Seaboard Industrial Signal Hill South Division South Eola South Orange South Semoran Southern Oaks Southport Spring Lake The Dovers The Willows Thornton Park Timberleaf Ventura Vista East Wadeview Park Washington Shores Wedgewood Groves West Colonial Westfield Windhover

[edit] Radio Stations

Melbourne is not Orlando. WBVD can barely be heard in Orlando. It needs to removed and/or relegated to the Melbourne/Brevard County article.

[edit] Gainesville?

Is Gainesville close enough to Orlando to include famous people from that city? I don't think it is. Generally, if people from other cities are included at all on a city's article, it's limited to people from contiguous suburbs. I'm not sure Gainesville is considered a suburb of Orlando; in fact, I'm fairly certain residents of Gainesville would contend that assessment. -- SwissCelt 06:06, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. They should be removed.

(JoeCarson 12:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC))

Yeah, G-villes a 2 hour drive (but can be up to 4 on gameday)--Porsche997SBS (talk) 02:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] City limits population over 300,000?

Am I'm missing something here, but what's the source of the population leap other that the city recently annexed significat amount of densly-populated suburban land, which I haven't read anywhere. Please help out. At last look, the city's population is still over 200,000. --Moreau36 14:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics

Somebody needs to fix the table of numbers in the demographics section. I am a new user and do not know how. Dachshund2k3 19:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Buena Vista

ISn't Disney in Buena Vista? It even mentions that The city is best known for the many tourist attractions in the area, particularly the nearby Walt Disney World Resort, which is in the Reedy Creek Improvement District (outside Orlando city limits). If it's outside city limits, Why is it mentioned? Therequiembellishere 22:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Ask most people what city they think of when you mention Disney World and they will tell you Orlando. Most probably think it's in Orlando. It does not matter that Disney is technically outside of city limits, it is "in the area..." as the article states. (JoeCarson 23:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Kind of a wierd fact for the Introduction

Quote from first paragraph: "The city is best known for the many great Bums,Escorts and..." I really dont think the city is known for its bums and prostitution. If you live there mabee, because I do, and everyone knows which streets to avoid, but I cannot see that is a well known fact, that should be included within the article. Or atlest not in the intro paragraph...KoRnOnThEeKoB 19:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Ya the entire opening paragraph is screwed up. Last time I checked the Mayor was not "McCheese." So if someone could create a opener thatd be great. Im going to delete the obvious grafitties. KoRnOnThEeKoB 19:20, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Fixed the opening paragraph & removed the biased references to Orlando's homeless and gay populations. Donniewan75 16:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crime

I was looking for crime statistics but the article doesn't seem to have any. Isn't this something that should be included for a major city like Orlando? KnightLago 03:39, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skyline Photo

Can somebody add an Orlando skyline photo at the top of the page? It could use one.

The latest skyline photo was unexpectedly deleted. I request the addition of a new pernmanent skyline photo. Floridian06 (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm driving down next week. If I get in a good enough view of the skyline, I will definitely take one. 24.184.90.191 (talk) 21:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Cattle racing?

The third paragraph under history says early settlers made their living by cattle racing. Is this true, or a misspelling of "raising"? LamarChan (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)