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In History section: More information on history of sport in AU/NZ More information on history of sport in Japan/China Some mention of world championships history and any major developments in structure Any reliable figures on participation Photos needed: Runners crossing a finish line A control point in the woods Up close photo of epunch equipment at a control Runner on course examining a map A protractor or thumb compass on a map demonstrating how to take a bearing A medal ceremony at a world championship Sub-articles needed: Protractor compass Thumb compass Orienteering map Electronic punch (orienteering) (or something like that)

Re: the map picture: The "Basic play" section notes that "An orienteering course is marked on a map using a red triangle to indicate the start and a double circle to locate the finish. Red circles are used to show the control points"

However, the included example map does not appear to have these elements on it. Would it be possible to get a map that does include these elements (and perhaps is larger when click on as well)? (Oct 1, 2005) Finally started an account, so: Dxco 20:11, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

We'd need to find an organization willing to release a portion of a map with a course on it to a Wikipedia-compatible licence. Images in the 'pedia always point to themselves when you click on them, so a 'wider' map would need to be linked to in the description text instead. Radagast 12:01, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, the 'larger when clicked' is now possible, thanks to the new ImageMap trick (which I've put in). We'll either need to modify this within GFDL to add a course, or get a different image, if we want route markings. Radagast 20:10, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Added some photos from other Wikipedias. Should the competitor be named? 84.230.251.110 17:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Think it would be better if the map used didn't feature advertising for a large multinational oil company. Unless of course they're willing to make a large donation to Wikipedia! (Psmythirl 19:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC))

Contents 1 Course Difficulty Progression 2 Amateur Radio Direction Finding 3 Userbox 4 City orienteering 5 Use of compass 6 Sprint orienteering 7 Rogaining 8 Trail-O 9 GA review

[edit] Course Difficulty Progression

This is an excellent description but not really appropriate here. Also very specific to USA. If this description is available elsewhere on the Net then we could simply add a link to it instead.

[edit] Amateur Radio Direction Finding

I've been working on the Amateur Radio Direction Finding (also known as radio orienteering), article, and would really appreciate peer review and feedback from others with orienteering expertise. --Kharker 00:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Userbox

To display this Wikipedia userbox on your own Wikipedia User page, edit the page and put the code {{User:UBX/Orienteer}} on it.

To list other Wikipedia users who display this userbox, go to its template page and click its What links here, or click here

Una Smith 18:43, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] City orienteering

There should be an article about city orienteering, which is done in a city rather than in a forest or other wilderness area. It is not a sport as such but it is a popular activity in student organisations. I have given directions to several students who have been city orienteering in downtown Helsinki. JIP | Talk 17:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

You're describing 'Park Orienteering' there, I think; we used to have a section on that distinction, but it's been edited out over time... Radagast 21:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

There is (or at least was) a world championship street/park orienteering that runs parrallel with the world cup.

Another novelty form is metr-orienteering where competitors use a metro system to get from place to place.--Glass90land 15:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Use of compass

It is inaccurate to say the compass is only used to set the map to north. Compasses are also used to (1) set a direction for fast running where fine navigation is not required thus negating the need for continually checking the map, plot barings for fine navigation in featureless areas, or areas so over loaded with features they are dificult to distinguish. "Tips from the experts" posted at the recent British Championships nearly all inclded advise to use the compass in these ways

[edit] Sprint orienteering

Should the article at least mention sprint orienteering? There is an official map spec for it: [1], so it is legitimate and at least partially recognized by the International Orienteering Federation. StevenBell 00:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Edit - I see that the article does mention Sprint-O, in the race types section. My mistake. The "Race types" mentioned are mostly used in Foot-O, so would it make more sense to have that as a sub-section of "Recognized types of orienteering"? StevenBell 13:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rogaining

The rogaining article could use some help. Someone is trying to add relevant history and someone else is reverting, claiming lack of notability. --Una Smith 13:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trail-O

I edit the trail-o section to clearify the equal terms for disable and ablebodied in this for of orienteering. kingvald 13:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

I do not believe that this article was ready to be nominated. Rather than failing it outright, I will make some initial comments and place it on hold for seven days to allow these to be dealt with. If they are addressed, I will look through the article to give a more in-depth review that will allow it to be promoted. Some of the major problems that need to be dealt with first are:

1. Much of the article is unreferenced. Please look through other articles listed at Wikipedia:Good articles to see the level of referencing needed for a GA pass. The entire article needs to be referenced in order to be promoted.
2. References should be formatted properly, including at least a title, publisher, url and accessdate for web sources. See Wikipedia:Citation templates.
3. Ensure that all images have source information (the address at which they were found, if they are taken from the internet).
4. Stagger images rather than having them all right-aligned (see Wikipedia:Manual of style#Images).
5. Address the concerns brought up by the "neutrality disputed" tags.
6. Expand short sections. Many of them are only two sentences long, which is not long enough for some of them to be broad in coverage (particularly the "Governing body" section).
7. Section headers should only have the first letter capitalized except in the case of proper nouns (eg. Governing body, not Governing Body).
8. Where hyphens are used to indicate a range (eg. 70 - 80 minutes), replace them with en dashes (–) by typing &ndash ; (without the space between the h and the semicolon).

That should take care of the biggest problems with the article. Please let me know if you have any questions (I will keep this page on my watchlist, so you can reply here). GaryColemanFan (talk) 21:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Please add {{done}} to the list once you believe the issues to be addressed. Anonymous101 (talk) 09:24, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

• Much of the article is unreferenced. Please look through other articles listed at Wikipedia:Good articles to see the level of referencing needed for a GA pass. The entire article needs to be referenced in order to be promoted.

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• References should be formatted properly, including at least a title, publisher, url and accessdate for web sources. See Wikipedia:Citation templates.

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• Ensure that all images have source information (the address at which they were found, if they are taken from the internet).

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• Stagger images rather than having them all right-aligned (see Wikipedia:Manual of style#Images).

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• Address the concerns brought up by the "neutrality disputed" tags.

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• Expand short sections. Many of them are only two sentences long, which is not long enough for some of them to be broad in coverage (particularly the "Governing body" section).

• N Not done yet. Please remove this when it is done.

• Section headers should only have the first letter capitalized except in the case of proper nouns (eg. Governing body, not Governing Body).

• Y Done Anonymous101 (talk) 16:22, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

• Where hyphens are used to indicate a range (eg. 70 - 80 minutes), replace them with en dashes (–) by typing &ndash ; (without the space between the h and the semicolon).

• Y Done Anonymous101 (talk) 09:57, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I withdraw my nomination. I am busy this week and I do not have time to make the required edits. Anonymous101 (talk) 09:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. I hope my comments are helpful in preparing this article for a future nomination. Best wishes, GaryColemanFan (talk) 13:02, 28 May 2008 (UTC)