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[edit] Organization XIII factsheet (READ FIRST)

Attributes, weapons, and Nobodies are taken from Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania, with the exception of Zexion's attribute, which was taken from a Famitsu interview with Nomura; Zexion's weapon, which was shown in scans from magazines; and Lexaeus' weapon, which is referred to as a tomahawk in his profiles for Chain of Memories and II. Original selves come from in-game information, Secret Ansem Report #2 and #3 in the case of Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, and Zexion, with big, obvious scenes revolving around the original selves of Xemnas and Roxas.
Gaps with no confirmed information are:
  • Original selves of Saïx, Axel, Demyx, Luxord, Marluxia, and Larxene.
  • Lesser Nobodies of Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, Marluxia, and Larxene.
  • I. Xemnas (ゼムナス zemunasu?)
    • Original self: Xehanort (ゼアノート zeanōto?), uses Ansem (アンセム ansemu?) for anagram
    • Attribute: Nothingness ( mu?)
    • Weapon: Aerial Blade (エアリアルブレード eariaru burēdo?)
    • Nobody: Sorcerer (ソーサラー sōsarā?)
  • II. Xigbar (シグバール shigubāru?)
    • Original self: Braig (ブライグ buraigu?, mistranslated as Bleig)
    • Attribute: Space (空間 kūkan?)
    • Weapon: Gun Arrow (ガンアロー gan arō?)
    • Nobody: Sniper (スナイパー sunaipā?)
  • III. Xaldin (ザルディン zarudin?)
    • Original self: Dilan (ディラン diran?, mistranslated as Dilin)
    • Attribute: Wind ( kaze?)
    • Weapon: Lance (ランス ransu?)
    • Nobody: Dragoon (ドラグーン doragūn?)
  • IV. Vexen (ヴィクセン vikusen?)
    • Original self: Even (エヴェン?)
    • Attribute: Ice ( kōri?)
    • Weapon: Shield (シールド shīrudo?)
    • Nobody: –
  • V. Lexaeus (レクセウス rekuseusu?)
    • Original self: Aeleus (エレウス ereusu?, mistranslated as Eleus)
    • Attribute: Earth ( tsuchi?)
    • Weapon: Tomahawk as given in Lexaeus's journal profiles in Chain of Memories and II, Axe Sword (アックスソード akkususōdo?) in the Ultimania
    • Nobody: –
  • VI. Zexion (ゼクシオン zekushion?)
    • Original self: Ienzo (イエンツォ Ientso?)
    • Attribute: Illusion (幻影 gen'ei?)
    • Weapon: Lexicon (レキシコン rekishikon?)
    • Nobody: –
  • VII. Saïx (サイクス saikusu?, Romanized as Saix in Ultimania, Japanese KHII site, etc)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Moon ( tsuki?)
    • Weapon: Claymore (クレイモア kureimoa?)
    • Nobody: Berserker (バーサーカー bāsākā?)
  • VIII. Axel (アクセル akuseru?)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Flame ( Homura?)
    • Weapon: Chakram (チャクラム chakuramu?)
    • Nobody: Assassin (アサシン asashin?)
  • IX. Demyx (デミックス demikkusu?)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Water ( mizu?)
    • Weapon: Sitar (シタール shitāru?)
    • Nobody: Dancer (ダンサー dansā?)
  • X. Luxord (ルクソード rukusōdo?)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Time ( toki?)
    • Weapon: Card (カード kādo?)
    • Nobody: Gambler (ギャンブラー gyanburā?)
  • XI. Marluxia (マールーシャ mārūsha?)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Flower ( hana?)
    • Weapon: Scythe (サイズ saizu?)
    • Nobody: –
  • XII. Larxene (ラクシーヌ rakushīnu?)
    • Original self: –
    • Attribute: Thunder ( kaminari?)
    • Weapon: Knife (ナイフ naifu?)
    • Nobody: –
  • XIII. Roxas (ロクサス rokusasu?)
    • Original self: Sora (ソラ?)
    • Attribute: Light ( hikari?)
    • Weapon: Keyblade (キーブレード kīburēdo?)
    • Nobody: Samurai (サムライ?)

[edit] Something important is missing

I think there's something strange about this article. It seems to be an article about the characters of the Organization XIII... It doesn't actually describe what IS the Organization XIII. I think a section describing it should be added above the Members section (the current section lead doesn't make much sense for someone unfamiliar with the series). FightingStreet (talk) 23:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

The lead paragraph of the article was meant to "briefly" describe what the organization is, as most everything else was excessive fictional info, which we tried to keep to a minimum. What extra information or possible copy edits did you have in mind? (Guyinblack25 talk 16:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC))
What the organization is, or why they have a precise name for their group in the first place (Sora, Donald and Goofy don't have a name for their group, why do the characters of the "Organization XIII" have one?). FightingStreet (talk) 18:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, my guess is only the director knows that right now. When we were digging for information on the characters, nothing like that came up. Who knows though, maybe more info will pop up when the three new games get released. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC))


[edit] IMAGES

I know we've discussed this before but is their anyway to bring back the old pictures? The picture at the top shows all the members of the organization but I think it would be better to just have separate pictures. It makes the page look better and makes it more appealing. Please reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.224.171 (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, because the images are of copyrighted material, we are limited in the usage of them. Basically, because there is a single image that illustrates most of the characters, we can't really use single images anymore. See for Talk:Characters of Kingdom Hearts#Removal of images a similar discussion. (Guyinblack25 talk 03:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC))
Yes, individual images are obviously a no-no, which is why I'm not convinced by the third image, as I mentioned on your talkpage. BKNFCC 16:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Forget that, I've just realised that it's a main character who isn't featured in the (very nice) image at the top. In that case, it probably just about squeaks past NFCC, so it can stay. BKNFCC 16:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
That was the same conclusion we came to. Thank you very much for understanding. :-) (Guyinblack25 talk 16:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC))
But since Roxas was an Organisation member as well, shouldn't the caption note he isn't pictured? L337 kybldmstr (talk) 02:02, 7 May 2008 (UTC)