Talk:Oreland Boy Scout Troop 1

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[edit] Merge Oreland Boy Scout Troop 1

The following discussions are an archived debate. Please do not modify it.

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  • Oppose Troop is notable. --evrik (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose Jmpenzone 20:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
    • The troop is notable, please send me a list of troops over 90 years that have been chartered every single year. (Most 'old' troops went through charter laspes during the 40's and 80's) We have actively and notably served the community all those years. We operate our own camp and (not to toot our horn) we are the envy of every troop in the area. We have over 30 active scouts and over 30 active adults. (1:1 scout to adult) We've been chartered by Christ Lutheran Church now for 60 years and were sponsored by the group of citizens before that. I know individual troops are not to have their own page, but we are an exception to this. Along with the volunteer fire company, Troop #1 also helps identify the community of Oreland. I am not promoting the troop here, we have our own website to do that. I feel that the troop deserves to be recognized here. Thank you.Jmpenzone 18:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Support merge there is nothing notable about this troop and project policy does not support unit articles. Actually, it'd probably be better merged into hawk mountain camp. Rlevse 11:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Should this be closed? --evrik (talk) 14:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • "please send me a list of troops over 90 years that have been chartered every single year" How does this meet wiki notability standards?Rlevse 17:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
    • They do run their own camp ... in any case, theere is no consensus to merge ... and this is languishing. --evrik (talk) 17:20, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Oppose Regarding meeting the wiki notability standards, this troop has received ample coverage over the years in media such as the Springfield Sun and other media covering its regular meeting place as well as that covering the location of Hawk Mountain Camp. If anything, the article needs citations rather than being merged into a larger article. The troop is clearly notable, being one of the oldest in the nation and one of only a handful to operate its own camp, providing it with a rich and interesting history that few other troops match. Clearly information about this troop's history would be inappropriate and out of place in a broader article. The guidelines, after all, are just guidelines and not hard and fast rules, which allows for flexibility in cases like these. For these reasons, I oppose merging this. --Vincent Pace 20:23, 23 July 2007 (EST)
    • I can name two other Pennsylvania troops that are over 90 years old and have been chartered every year -- Bala Troop 1 (aka Bala Troop 17) -- see http://bala_one.tripod.com/bala1/-- and http://www.lowermerionhistory.org/texts/first300/part24.html -- and Merion Liberty Troop (aka Merion Troop 71) -- see http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=18541573&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=6 -- Ktredshoes 02:19, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Can this merge suggestion be removed? I think its pretty clear it should be a distinct page; both by the amount of users opposing merge and the content of their objections. -- Jheiv 17:08, 26 July 2007 (UTC)