Talk:Order of St. Joachim

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[edit] What on earth

The people of this Order expect to be taken seriously, but, for heaven's sake, what for? They do charitable stuff, but they should just change this into a charitable foundation instead of going under the guise of an actual Order. Apparently they take membership from whoever can pay the annual thirty bucks, which is silly.J.J. Bustamante 10:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Never mind the charade

  • I do not mind their "sillyness". If calling yourself an order of knighthood adds more fun and stability to a charitable organisation then why not? Why should only princes of countries that were abolished decades ago be the founders of orders of knighthood? In the middle ages any knight or group of reputable people could do so! William the Marshall for example.

The obvious smokescreens in this article, that I started but that has since been extended by what seems to have been a Knight of Saint Joachim called "Montfort" (he used the frase "we were etc," thus betraying himself),are the following:

  • The order was extinct for a long time. With what right was it rekindled?
  • Who is Helmut von Braundle-Falkensee? Is there a family of that name? What right did he have to reinstitute this order?

If the answer on the last question is "none", then the order is indeed "self styled". But never mind, I wish them good luck and many happy chapters.

Robert Prummel 01:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A slight edit

  • I have inserted quotation marks around the title of Levett Hanson, as he was never actually knighted in England. A native of Yorkshire, and classmate of Admiral Nelson's at Paston School in Norfolk, Hanson moved to Europe, where he shuttled between various royal courts. The designation of 'Sir,' implying knighthood, seems to be merely honorific. MarmadukePercy (talk) 19:24, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
A slight correction on my earlier post. Levett Hanson was apparently accorded the honor of a knighthood of a foreign court, and such was recorded in the annals of the College of Arms. I have appended a footnote to the original source.MarmadukePercy (talk) 17:18, 5 April 2008 (UTC)