Talk:Orange Line (MBTA)

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"The fleet's windows have a distinctive orange tint."

I know what this means, but the Blue Line cars' passenger windows are like that too. The orange paint and cheesy faux woodgrain interiors really do make that amber/beige/whatever-it's-supposed-to-be stand out, and if you look into the windows of a passing car, it looks like the passengers are floating in a tankful of pee. Odd, that, since the old Bluebird cars on the Red Line are the ones that smelled like pee. --iMb~Meow 07:57, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

We should add a note about the blue-line tint whenever someone adds an entry on rolling stock to the blueline page. jdb ❋ (talk) 08:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

BTW, why did you remove this? jdb ❋ (talk) 05:02, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Because it's not distinctive. The PATH cars they were based on have the same glass. That kind of coloring was typical in the 1970s. --iMb~Meow 06:02, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hm. I don't remember an orange tint last time I rode on the PATH (Jersey City-NYC), although that was a long time ago. Do you know if cars with that coloring are still in use? jdb ❋ (talk) 07:33, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I haven't been out there in a long time, and am looking for photos of that series (older and newer PATH cars look superficially the same but were from different builders). This one sort of shows it, but not too well (you can see the difference in tint between the front and side windows, but the angle stinks). --iMb~Meow 07:44, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Interesting. The Blue Line uses a blue tint, the orange line has an orange tint, and the PATH has an (apparent) orange tint. Given that this is unique to only two of Boston's rail lines, I'll re-add it, with the details you've supplied. jdb ❋ (talk) 07:57, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Huh? The Blue Line cars have the same sickly yellow window as the others, as seen here.

I'm going to take out this stuff about color-keyed glass again. If you intend to re-add it, please come up with a reference from MBTA or Bombardier to support it first. Thanks. --iMb~Meow 08:25, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That's very odd. I stand corrected. I think some of the cars have replacement windows that gave me the impression that they were blue: [1] -- the left-hand door pane looks blue, not orange, by comparison to the right. BTW, what does Bombardier have to do with this? jdb ❋ (talk) 08:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Those aren't replacements, the windows in the operator areas were always different. Hawker-Siddeley Canada sold Canada Car to Bombardier years ago. --iMb~Meow 08:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah. I'm referring to the pane in the doors (in here, the leftmost pane in the photo, c.f. the next leftmost), not at the end (but no matter; it's an exception, rather than the rule). jdb ❋ (talk) 15:59, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

From what I can tell from that photo (unfortunately there are no closeups on nycsubway.org), the yellowish tint seems to come from the lights. --SPUI (talk) 08:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

They really are tinted in real life, even looking out from the inside. The yellowish/brownish cast could easily be grime, though. --iMb~Meow 08:42, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

IMeowbot talks about how the cars smell. Do the cars really smell like pee? Geo Swan 07:01, 2005 Apr 23 (UTC)

Yes, the Bluebirds did smell like pee. Those cars (now retired) didn't have air conditioning, the Red Line is really crowded during commute hours, and sweat contains pee. I suppose it was inevitable. --iMb~Meow 07:21, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Map requests

It is requested that a map or maps be included in this article to improve its quality. Wikipedians in Massachusetts may be able to help!

Maps are needed to compare the Washington Street Elevated routing and stops with the Southwest Corridor routing and stops, and to compare the Charlestown Elevated routing and stops with the Haymarket North Extension routing and stops. -- Beland 20:10, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photos of Washington and Charlestown elevated sections

	It is requested that a photograph or photographs of the old Washington and Charlestown elevated sections of the Orange Line be included in this article to improve its quality. Wikipedians in Massachusetts may be able to help!
	The Free Image Search Tool (FIST) may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Does anyone have photos of the old elevated sections? Service continued into the 1980s and 1970s, respectively. Dogru144 13:10, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Express Track

[2] mentions a third express track from Wellington to Community College. Perhaps this article should mention it, and talk about why it was built and how it was intended to be used. (It apparently has been used for testing new Blue Line cars recently, but I doubt that is why it was built.) JNW2 (talk) 00:10, 24 November 2007 (UTC)