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[edit] nice article

try to add a battlebox to understand better the aftermatch


[edit] Expansion and rewriting

Hi, I expanded this article, added a battlebox and I uploaded a series of images for this article. Contact me for ay improvement. Reuv 17:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

This is a good article but I only have the power to upgrade it to B class. However, I sugest that you nominate it for GAC and later on A-class review at WPMILHIST. Good luck! Kyriakos 00:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Needs clean-up before A-class review. Good comprehensive detail, but at times it reads more like a copy of an official report - a bit verbose. Some sections could do with sub-division and there are some formatting issues - I'll have a crack as a demo, without changing the substance. IMO, the detail is fine, but it can put off the casual reader - I'm never sure how to resolve the conundrum. BTW, what exactly was the US involvement (see tags)? If it was just the Ohio, then it needs discussion, we haven't previously added a tag for every nationality in a convoy. Folks at 137 05:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, the Ohio was 'american'-built, but it was under british ownership. There were also two other American ships in the convoy, the SS Santa Elisa and the SS Almeria Lykes. For services during this operation President Roosevelt presented the Merchant Marine Distinguished Service Medal to Frederick August Larsen, Jr., Junior Third Officer and to Francis A. Dales, Cadet-Midshipman, U.S. Merchant Marine Academy, for "Heroism Beyond the Call of duty". I assumed that such American involvement ought to be noted, even if it was indeed marginal. Reuv 08:35, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, no problem for me. I had assumed that the Ohio was US owned, registered and crewed - must check. Adding the US ensign to the "combatant" part of the box (this is not the tag I referred to) implied to me that there were US warships, which I doubted, unlike a later operation which involved a US carrier. It may be interesting to add the merchant ships' details. The awards you mention should be in the article (if they're not already), and there were some UK awards as well, eg, Syfret was knighted for his part. Folks at 137 17:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I did contribute to the wikipedia SS Ohio article as well, and it seems that the tanker was registered in the British Eagle Oil list as soon as her involvement in the convoy was confirmed....i think Lend-Lease or some big-wig discussion had something to do with it. What I'm certain of is that her crew during the initial operation was British...however, two American seamen (the ones that got the awards) were involved with the latter stages of the convoy. They were survivors from the american freighters (one of them from the Almeria Lykes) and they volunteered to man the Oerlikons on the Ohio as it approached Malta. I did not know of Syfret's knighthood or that it was linked with this convoy....there was a George Cross for the captain of the Ohio too now that i remember!! Reuv 17:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why the battle is marked indecisive?

The battle should be marked as success and victory for the Allies. It should be noted that there was no fuel and spareparts left for airplanes,the gunners had a ration how much shells should they fire, and food left for the population was just for a few days more (some sources say about 10 days was the maximum). By food here we mean the basic needs, such as flour and potatoes not other commodities. The convoy brought these necessary supplies for Malta to fight till the next convoy can be despatched.88.203.76.186 (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's this CB thing?

Re the infobox and the post-nominal initials of one of the British commanders: CB means Companion of the Bath (see blue link above.) Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 17:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)