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Operation Donnerschlag claims that not the escape, but the guard operation was named Cerberus. Can someone elaborate?

The break-out by the ships of the Brest Group had six different code names during various planning stages in an effort to confuse any adversary; the final German admiralty plan and the actual operation was “Operation Cerberus.” “Donnerschlag” may have been one of these code names, but a Naval “Donnerschlag” in connection with “Operation Cerberus” is not identified in the literature.

The British effort to prevent the break-out and return of the German ships to their home bases was code-named “Fuller.” Various sub-operations, “Stopper,” “Habo,” “Line SE,” and “Jim Crow” were part of “Fuller.” None were effective.

Operation Donnerschlag as a major German Naval enterprise is doubtful.--Gamahler 17:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Coastal batteries anyone?

How come the Dover heavy batteries couldn't shoot those ships to pieces? The brits had good radar, so even with smokescreen the nazi ships could find no effective cover. The Dover guns had a range of 40km or more with the modified 15" ammunition! 195.70.32.136 19:48, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

The batteries were not alerted in time. They opened fire only shortly before the ships were out of range and ceased firing when a smokescreen was laid by the german escorts. Nevfennas 22:31, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gneisenau

I am suggesting to remove the edit “(and never again saw active service)” for the following reason: Gneisenau successfully completed Operation Cerberus, the subject of this page. Seven days later she entered dry dock at Kiel (after transiting Kiel Canal) to repair mine damage. She was attacked by a total of 178 RAF bombers between 25 and 27 February 1942 which smashed her bows and foredecks. It was due to these air attacks, subsequent transfer and incomplete repairs at Gotenhafen, that she was decommissioned and never again saw active service.--Gamahler 03:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

No reaction, will remove edit "(and never again saw active service)"--Gamahler 00:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of victory in the result.

I have changed the result to "German Success" rather than "victory" is this implies some considerable battle took place, it did not. So the op. would have been more a success than a won victory, no?Dapi89 (talk) 16:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)