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Erm, I'm sorry, but I really feel that the implementation specific aspects of OpenStep should be put to it's own page. After all, OPENSTEP==operating system. OpenStep == API... Would there be such an objection to me re-forkinig OpenStep? After all, I have seriously expanded the content under OPENSTEP, and intend to put a screenshot up later. ... Dysprosia 12:30 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
- Gee, forget about it then. Dysprosia 04:01 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't see this page until now. The problem I have with forking the article is that there is exactly one implementation that saw real use. Since the Sun version occupies exactly one paragraph, it seems that any forking is pointless, it's not like there's any need for an "OpenStep Solaris" article, and the differences between the OS and the API can be described, as you have done, in a single sentance.
In fact I think as it stands the article could use a little more re-arranging. The Solaris port should have it's own section I think, and the intro could be re-merged. That is, the intro would mention the Solaris and NeXT versions, but would concentrate solely on the API and leave full descriptions to later in the article (as it is now to a large degree).
- Well, the real problem I have is that implementation specific stuff is under OpenStep, which is really misleading, and should be pointed out clearer. Putting the sentence in for me was a kind of compromise, but I'm still uneasy. Call me a pedant :)
- But what about NeXT's OPENSTEP? This is the most important NeXT OS they created, and deserves special treatment just as well as the Sol port..
- Dysprosia 12:27 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I agree, but I'm a little confused what to do about it. Most of my articles have a short intro (got that here), then a history section, then a description. I this case I can't really do much of a description of the Solaris port because I've never seen it.
- About titling? I thought about moving to OpenStep and OPENSTEP, but understandably that's a little cumbersome. Or maybe moving to Openstep, which is a kind of case-in-the-middle...I have no other ideas so far, but I'll think about it...
- About the Sol port, I've seen screenshots of it hither and thither, it looks like a weird cross between OPEN LOOK with the NeXT dock (but with the Sun logo) and with NeXTSTEP style windows. However I don't know that much to expand. I might have a look further when I have the time... Dysprosia 12:31 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)
autoreleasing an object passed to another object and HOPING it retains it is asking for trouble (unless the other object is explicitly documented as retaining the object passed in). it is only even vaguely logical to do this when you no longer need a reference to it yourself; even then, it is much better (specifically, clearer) to release it directly.
(I'm not talking about the return value of an accessor or factory method. the previous version implied that you would do this when passing an object to a method on another object, and that's what I'm talking about here.)
Mac-arena the Bored Zo 14:04, 2005 Jan 1 (UTC)
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