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Dear Wikipedians, I think the beginning of this article as it stands now is a bit confusing. Adam Opel AG is a company name, OPEL is trademark or brand as trademarks are comonly called. I think, therefore: - At the beginning Opel and the company name should be mentioned, without the wording "originally and more correctly". - there is no need mentioning French or Dutch versions - they are not the identical in meanuing with the German company name.

Regards, --Millisits 12:32, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)


It's not too confusing to understand, but it is a little awkward. How about, "incorporated as," "formally known as," or something like "The full name of the company is." According to GM's traditional nomenclature, I think it should then probably be identified as a division of that company rather than the amorphous "part of." RivGuySC 15:14, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

What is the mining of "OPEL"? -- It has no meaning. Just the last name of the founder.

Thanks


The following sentence appears towards the latter part of the introduction "Another chance is taking place to actually kill off the name starting with V and replace it with something like Opel UK (will also abbreviate a new chance to also give it another name too, Opel Great Britain)." If anyone can make proper sense of this and make it sound less like a incoherent rant, please do. Otherwise, I'll delete it.

Arild 01:35, 5 Jan 2006 (CET)

Any word on what this company was up to during WWII? Having been owned by GM since 1929 and all... Paul 05:43, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] never heard of it

I think a central sentence near the top should make clear that this major manufacturer does not market "opel" cars in the United States (the US being about half the world-wide market and the majority of wikipedia readers).

WP:BOLD (I'm not from the US so I cannot really know what to insert to reflect the issue.) Shinobu 04:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that this is necessary; Opel, as Opel, is not in the US market, and Wikipedia readers come from many more places than just the US. However, as I recommended below, at least small mention should be made of the integration of the European Opel lineup wit the North American Saturn lineup - something that US readers will relate to much more easily. Boter 14:30, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
But why do we Europeans have heard of most your american motorcompanies? There's not only mercedes, porsche & co ;-) it's like the cnn news where they said switzerland is czechoslovakia :D. --88.70.24.56 08:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
"Never heard of it"? Well, count yourself lucky, now that you have heard of it... you will find cars identical with Opels marketed in the US under a different badge, sometimes made in some other GM plant in some other country. As for your claim that "the US is about half the world-wide market", please verify it if possible. Walkingmelways 13:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opel and the war

They were a subsidiary of a US corporation before WW2 - so what happened during it and what was the effect in the post war reconstruction. GraemeLeggett 08:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. This is an important fact that seems to be overlooked. I am reminded of the Munich scene from Family Guy's Road to Europe episode. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 19:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motorsport history

Why nothing of Opel's motorsport history? No mention of its involvement in various touring car formulae, or of Formula 3 and the Opel Euroseries. Adrian M. H. 21:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Events

In my opinion, there is an error in the "events" paragraph. It states that Opel was (first?) launched in Asia in 1971. I am born and raised in Indonesia, a considerable part of Asia, and I can vividly remember the Olympias, Kapitäns and Rekords riding along in my hometown, during my childhood days in the 1950s! So 1971 is definitively not the earliest year that Opel came around in Asia. In fact, my parents rode a 1957 Opel Kapitän up to 1962, and later on my brother in law rode an Admiral in 1968.

24.132.244.182 16:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Integration with Saturn

I was wondering if anyone would be able to write a small section as to how Opel is being integrated with the Saturn marque of North America - such as how Opel is brining the Saturn Sky over as the Opel GT, and how Saturn brought over the Opel Vectra, Opel Antara, and Opel Astra as the Saturn Aura, second-generation Saturn VUE, and Saturn Astra, respectively. Boter 14:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Only old models as pic

Hi, why are the shown models here only the old ones pre 1980? --88.70.24.56 08:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] OPEL NOT a subsidiary from Vauxhall

Hi!

OPEL is definitely NOT a subsidiary from Vauxhall. OPEL is a subsidiary directly from GM (U.S.) and GM Europe (Switzerland). Vauxhall is a subsidiary from GM (U.S.) and GM Europe too. But OPEL is NOT a subsidiary from Vauxhall, Vauxhall is NOT a subsidiary from OPEL. This two european GM-Companies are still equal. OPEL has his head-office in Rüsselsheim (it's near my german hometown) and subordinates directly zu GM Europe (Switzerland). I don't know, from where the IP-user gets his wrong "informations".

So I will undo the Changes from the IP-User. Greetings - TomGaribaldi from german wikipedia [here a IP-User too ;-) ] 77.0.182.48 (talk) 19:01, 20 November 2007 (UTC) It was me - TomGaribaldi 10:58, 2 December 2007 (UTC) - I've just created an account in en.wikipedia, too.

Tom is right. See the GM Europe site. I will undo that edit. --MB-one (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opel Eco speedster 113 mpg?

Discovery Channel's FutureCar claimed this model could run for 24 hours at 140 mph at 113 mpg ... it would be a very interesting topic for this article to cover. 70.15.114.2 (talk) 05:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)