Talk:Oneida Community
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[edit] Pictures
I think this article needs some pictures of where this civilization was, and of the leading members of it, if they can be found. (Demon Slayer 20:48, 20 November 2005 (UTC))
[edit] Stirpiculture
I agree with Oichiro. This site: http://www.cis.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1989/1/89.01.04.x.html#h has a section on stirpiculture, which is a reproductive technique used in the Oneida Community. Dstarisbeastin 17:34, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
I think this article should mention "stirpiculture," one of the most notable practices of Oneida Society. --Oichiro 05:37, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Growth
There were initially some forty-five members to the community. The community grew slowly (72 members by February of 1850, 205 by February of 1851, and 306 members by 1878)
What is the benchmark for growth rate? In other words, why is this considered "slow"? --Calieber 15:24, Nov 5, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Smaller communities
And another thing.
There were smaller communities in Wallingford, Newark, Putney, Cambridge, and Manlius for a short time.
Did any or all of these smaller communities have some connection to Oneida -- offshoots, branches, consciously copying the model, that sort of thing? Otherwise it's an interesting bit of trivia but could perhaps be rephrased or moved further down the article. Also, I know off the top of my head of three towns called "Newark" between the Potomac and St. Lawrence Rivers; which one is being referred to here? --Calieber 15:32, Nov 5, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Undesireables
My wife remembers visiting the Mansion house when she was very young. She and her classmates played in the children's house basement among shackles. During the tour, she was told of cages for holding the "undesireables" or deformed. In all the research we have done, we cannot find any record of such children being born or dying. Furthermore, the practice of sex without ejaculation had to have had it's foibles. Why are there no unwanted births whatsoever? A society of 300 should at least have one or two children who were born with defects or aberrations. This needs to be explained.
- Unlike the Pitcairn Islands this was a short-lived community lasting only a few decades. Unless the members were mostly related to begin with, I see no reason why the deleterious effects of inbreeding could not have been minimized.
[edit] Bias
This is an extremely bias article that portrays John Noles as some sex crazed manipulator. There is no evidence supporting this in records and a more objective point of view should be taken.
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[edit] Format
Noyes is mentioned several times before being introduced at all. Someone clean this up with some editing? Dean 18:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Misogyny?
I take objection to the statement about it generally being accepted at the time that men were spiritually superior to women. Everything I have ever read on the Oneida community indicates that egalitarianism between the sexes was a prime motivator, including for the practices of complex marriage and male continence (via traditional marriage often being seen as a vehicle of ownership, and via women being necessarily unfree when opressed by unwanted pregnancies). Can someone please cite a source for the claim that this was a motivator in the Oneida hierarchy? Mathlaura 01:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Picture
Can we have a picture of the women dress? 
There is a woman in bloomers and another talking about free love. Do they look as Perfectionists?
I have entered sections for previous talk postings. --Error (talk) 00:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
