Talk:One Foot in the Grave

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[edit] Rennovation

  • Hey, deX here...I decided that the One Foot In The Grave page needed somewhat of a rennovation, and hence I have added and rearranged some information; an episode list was gained from my own private collection and some character descriptions as well as minor characters have indeed been added.

A complimentary fact box has also been added in keeping with the style of the comedy pages as a whole and it now exhibits a quote page, of which is far from complete.

More minor characters, hopefully, will be added in time.

Bye for now...

GeneralManager 20:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for aiming to improve Wikipedia. Please do not add material from copyrighted websites. Most of the material is taken from here, and we are not allowed to reproduce lyrics. The JPS 22:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
I've also removed that big 'minor characters' section. It was just superfluous. Also, we are unable to use some of the images you uploaded as they are copyrighted. The JPS 22:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I have placed sections back in of which I feel are vital to the flow.

M3Plus

Hello there again - it seems from the edits by other wikipedians that the episode guide and minor characters section was needed. I can certify that the episode list is indeed from my own private collection of VHS tapes of the series. The site you are reffering to exhibits descriptions that are identical to the VHS descriptions.

Whether direct usage of VHS/DVD descriptions from the back of collections is indeed permitted presents a point of uncertainty for me; however a similar style has been employed on other pages concerning comedy shows.

With regards to the pictures; I have meerly followed similar traits of other pages - for they are screen captures of a BBC Television show, taken via a TV Tuner Card software, being WINTV. If I am incorrect with the placement of these images upon this page - then I apologise, however, I hope I eventually see the removal of pictures with the similar copyprotection properties from other pages.

  • Thanking you for your cooperation.

GeneralManager 23:38, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I feel i'd have to agree with you two chaps on this issue. I feel that the minor characters section enriches the article, much alike the Father Ted article, where many minor characters were listed.

Trudy

Experienced wikipedians know all about sockpuppets, so don't even try it. Please stop adding the copyrighted and superfluous material. The JPS 12:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I respect your opinions with regard to this - you obviously seem to know what is permitted in Wikipedia, yet I do not take very kindly to your aggressive accusations of me employing sockpuppets.

The pages rennovation, of which we have seen, has been a concerted three way effort between myself, a good friend of mine - M3Plus and has obviously attracted the additional female wikipedian - Trudy (of who obviously hasn't created an account, as we can see from the pages history - and I reccomend her to do so.)

As the experienced wikipedian, that you are - I would like to know, for future editing delights, of the ability for one to use content from the back of VHS sleeves and screen captured images.

Thanking you for your involvement.

GeneralManager 16:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

The content from the back of VHS sleeves is copyrighted material, and therefore should not be copied. Screen captured images are acceptable. However, you must also ensure that they are screen captures, and are not publicity stills. Sometimes the two are hard to differentiate.
I'm sorry you found my assertions aggressive. There are not unfounded, however. The JPS 16:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Ah well, thankyou for clearing up that misdemeanour of myself and my chums.

GeneralManager 17:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I have reverted the page back to how it was, due to numerous errors.

M3Plus 00:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do not put back the Mr Bean reference, as this is incorrect. Furthermore, the Minor Characters section is a useful addition for fans of the sitcom, and is justified.

M3Plus 02:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] theme music

Anyone know who sang the theme music? It sounds to me like Eric Idle for some reason, and if it's so, that would make a good trivia addition. 65.35.93.97 06:57, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it was Eric Idle, and it is already in the description of the show - "The theme song was written and sung by Eric Idle, who also appeared in one episode. The series also made extensive use of incidental music, composed by Ed Welch, which often hinted at a particular genre to fit the mood of the scenes" Bob 11:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thanks, I missed that My reading comprehension sucks. Jafafa Hots 07:38, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
No probs. Bob 11:01, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] GA Result

There are 7 things that must pass before an article reaches GA status. I have reviewed it and the result is as follows:

  1. Well-written: Pass
  2. Factually accurate: Pass
  3. Broad: Pass
  4. Neutrally written: Pass
  5. Stable: Pass
  6. Well-referenced: Pass
  7. Images: Pass

Well done, the GA has passed successfully —Minun Spiderman 19:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 5th November plot additions

I have removed these comments from the plot section, as they are a little bit point of view and possibly use unverifiable words. Bob talk 01:09, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

It is notable that the wives of the warring Victor and Patrick provide the level-heads and friendliness in their marriages and are the ones vainly aiming to achieve some sort of truce and normality between their husbands. This is a common theme in sitcoms, as is the general scenario of wives acting as "straight women" to their clearly comedic husbands. These traditional aspects sit alongside the more adventurous and controversial ones. As a result the show was one of the few sitcoms of recent times to appeal to mass audiences and the critics.

...strong overtone of black comedy. This was the most radical part of its format. Probably the most shocking example is an episode from the second series where an old age pensioner is murdered in a break-in. He had forsaken buying new locks in favour of gimmicky toys for his grandson following a visit from a high-pressure salesman. Other episodes feature the death or serious injury of characters and deep, melancholy reflections were commonplace. These darker elements were unquestionably bold and thought-provoking but could also leave viewers highly uncomfortable.

[edit] Recession

This is an interesting angle on the series, and would be nice to have in the situation section, but it really requires a reference to back it up: The show is set at the hight of the last recession, many old people such as Victor Meldrew were laid off from work and were unable to ever find jobs again, however much they tried. Bob talk 17:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Currently watching the series again on DVD and it did occur to me that in reality, even in that era Meldrew would have probably been offered job-search training etc by his old company and maybe even obtain a job in his chosen profession of security. Of course today he would probably be able to find employment quite easily even at 60, but hey that would have destroyed the whole premise of the show! However I agree that in those days if you were redundant at 50 or 60 you were automatically on 'the scrapheap' so for audiences at the time, it would have been a 'given'. --MichaelGG (talk) 04:39, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pointless praise

No point to this whatsoever, but having read the One Foot In The Grave article, I just wanted to say that I think its one of the best-written pieces on this website. Excellent work to everyone who's edited it. C i d 14:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Also, whoever wrote the line "If anything could go wrong, it not only went wrong but pulled half of the universe down with it" deserves recognition :-) 160.84.253.241 (talk) 11:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Animal Cruelty

Why no mention of the hedgehog/slipper incident? Doozy88 13:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The hedgehog was already dead and rotting. There were numerous references to animal cruelty though e.g the tortoise on the bonfire incident. Wulfruna (talk) 19:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] cultural impact

The current section doesn't look suitable for this, so someone else do it.

The mmorpg Runescape, which has a lot of British humour in it, (http://www.zybez.net/quests.php?id=137&runescape_backtomyroots.htm) the title is mentioned for a wizard who has all but one foot been buried. 81.155.85.98 (talk) 13:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh? Bob talk 15:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree, Bob, the above poster obviously needs to get out more --MichaelGG (talk) 04:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)