Talk:Once Were Warriors

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Contents 1 Productions and Awards bias? 2 POV problem? 3 Rape Scene? 4 film/novel 5 Lake two? 6 Film and novel

[edit] Productions and Awards bias?

69.29.222.62 03:24, 27 February 2007 (UTC) Is it just me, or is this line so filled with POV that it doesn't belong in any encyclopedia.

"A disturbingly real exposé of the results of poor communication skills, Once Were Warriors impacted strongly on audiences, many of whom recognised and were forced to confront the parallel events in their own lives."

How do we determine realism, exposure, or the quality of the communication skills in the movie using documentation? Is there even a quote from the production staff claiming that any of this was intended in the shooting of the film?

I agree. This page generally needs a fair amount of work. I'm busy with a lot of other stuff, but feel free to jump in, anonymous person. --Helenalex 03:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV problem?

"It has, in international circles, led to a characterising of Maori as "all being like Jake.""

I have lived in the USA and UK for several years and never once heard this. Is there somewhare this could be verified from?

JohnRach 09:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

does this film portray maori as all being like jake? do foreigners and people overseas think all maori are like that?

[edit] Rape Scene?

I swear this movie (at least when I watched it) had the rape scene in it. Or did I watch an un-cut version of it or something? Wouldn't this warrent mention in the summary? Mitch119 08:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes it does, however whether it needs a separate mention would be subject to debate. It is all a part of the degradation suffered by Beth in her realisation of Jakes' interest in his friends and getting drunk. His ability to treat every situation with violence accompanies these situations and lead to Beth to her conclusion of life without him. On its own I do not think it is significant enough to require its own mention, this is amplified when Beth confronts Jake in the 'Royal Tavern' and he is made aware of the rape of his daughter. It is only at this point he realises that his 'friends' may not respect him as previously thought. It all builds to the decision that she is better off without him, rather than any singular incident. --Goggage 12:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] film/novel

The page makes it appear as if the film and novel have exactly the same plot, which they don't. Either this needs to be acknowledged or the book should get its own page. --Helenalex 22:07, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lake two?

Doesn't Rotorua translate as 'two lakes', rather than 'lake two', as stated on the page? Maori grammar normally goes subject-adjective ie maungatapu means sacred mountain rather than mountain sacred, and I would assume numbers work the same way. --Helenalex 01:49, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Film and novel

I've separated the film to its own article, at Once Were Warriors (film). Further improvements can be done there.--Cúchullain ^t/c 20:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)