Talk:On Parole

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[edit] Lucas Fox on drums

I don't understand how Philthy can be the drummer on the "bonus" (Dave Edmunds) tracks. Piecing together the chronology:

Sessions start with Dave Edmunds. Fox on drums.
Edmunds quits and is replaced by Fritz Fryer. Fox on drums. Fryer rerecords or reproduces the tracks already done with Edmunds.
Album almost complete. Phil Taylor replaces Fox and overdubs his drum parts.

Now, why would they get Taylor to overdub the drums on the Dave Edmunds outtakes? Back in 1976 nobody could have dreamed those tracks would one day be used as bonus tracks... Surely they'd have been left as is, with Fox drumming on them? If Taylor didn't have time to drum on "Lost Johnny" why would he drum on the Edmunds outtakes?

Can anyone throw any light on this (with reliable sources, please)? --kingboyk 16:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

That would seem to be the logical conclusion to draw given the information supplied. However, a simple listen to these bonus tracks and it's blindingly obvious that the overly busy drumming is the style of Taylor. I'm fairly certain that these aren't alternate takes at all, but more likely rough mixes, there being almost no difference between the versions of "Leaving Here" and "City Kids" (you can even hear the same spoken bit after the first note on both versions). "On Parole" gains over a minute at the end whereas the final mix fades early. The exception is "Motorhead" which is a different take, this being shorn of the disembodied flying drums that blights the final mix - there's a possibility that the drumming on this track is Fox. This is all OR and I doubt any reliable source can be quoted to make any definitive statement. Drwhawkfan (talk) 12:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Official album

On Parole is a studio album recorded by Motorhead under contract to United Artists for release as their debut album. The fact that UA delayed its release doesn't make it unofficial. People throw this word "official" around in a completely meaningless way, in what way is it unofficial? It was recorded under contract, registered with MCPS and PRS, and the band pushed UA to release it. The band may have been pissed off with UA for not releasing it at the time, and pissed off when it was subsequently released at the height of their popularity, but that does not in anyway diminish the fact that the album is completely legitimate and official. Drwhawkfan (talk) 18:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

'Not sanctioned by the band' would be better to say, though their blurbs usually use that word "unofficial".--Alf ^melmac 06:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I've tried to add some body to the band's dismay at UA refusing to release this album after it was recorded, and then their anger over its belated release. I've added a fact tag to the latter as, although I accept in good faith those who tell me the band disapproved of its release, I've never seen any quotes about this. Perhaps Lemmy's auto-bio may contain something about this, but the sceptical quote about UA's motives that I removed does not amount to a disapproval. Drwhawkfan (talk) 10:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)