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[edit] Unfair Omnius

I do not know if you can contact the writer of the book or not but Omnius was originally my name choice for my book "The Legends of Half-Bead Scream" which I am halfway completed with. My reasons of choosing the name was because Omnia means all in Latin and I thought it would make a cool touch. The name Omnius in the book made me change the name of my character in my book. I had to change it to boring Ancient Greek Panos (Πανος). I demand a right for using the name Omnius! I demand a verbal contact with the author or an Email address. I demand my rights as an American citizen to be able to use the name Omnius and for me to no longer use Panos!

-- The Legends of Half-Bead Scream Author: Jane Wickerson 129.49.76.89 04:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, you'd be going up against Frank Herbert, who has an advantage over you in two ways. One, Dune is one of the bestselling book series of all time, and is currently being continued by his son and the writer Kevin J. Anderson. Asking him to change a key detail in his book would be going up against one of the biggest intellectual property powerhouses of the literary age.
Two, he's dead.
Get over it and pick another name. You honestly can't think of anything better than Omnius? You don't see me whining because I can't make a book called "The Lord of the Rings" and have a Hobbit named Frodo who has a magic ring forged in the Cracks of Doom, do you? Matrixfusion 22:53, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
While maybe not the kindest way of putting it, Matrixfusion's advice certainly makes sense to me. (Of course, considering the date, she probably has gotten over it. Maybe we should delete or archive this?) SandChigger 02:52, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Not to be pedantic, but is there anything to even remotely suggest that Frank Herbert had intended to use this name? This book being written by Brian Herbert, whose books have on numerous occasions diverged from the original series on critical points, I doubt Frank himself is relevant in this connection in any way or form.
That said, I suspect (and hope) the original comment was intended as a joke. Besides. "Omnius"? Come on. :P
Let's archive this already.
Zuiram 22:01, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Omnius was Frank's invention, Erasmus was Brian's and Kevin's. Dionyseus 00:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Let's not include anything along that line in the article without a proper citation, OK? (Not saying that such is your intention, of course.) The final responsibility for the choice of the name and nature of the "beast" is still very much in question based on all I have read; if you know of a source to the contrary, explicitly stating that Frank Herbert came up with the name "Omnius" and had in mind a single, super AI, please cite it. (I'd like to read it.) SandChigger 00:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to read it too... Brian has claimed to base a lot of his stuff on conversations with Frank and notes left behind by him, but repeatedly demonstrates complete obliviousness to many important aspects of the setting, as well as repeatedly contradicting previously published materials by himself and by Frank. Zuiram 23:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I have no doubt Brian and Kevin made up everything they claim they "found" in Frank's effects. And, Omnius sounds way too much like a half-baked copy of The Matrix. Matrixfusion 03:37, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Well, this isn't really the place to discuss such things except as they relate to the article. Until such time as the Herberts decide to release Frank's materials in some form, we can't really say anything definitive one way or the other. We can only say that the Omnius "Evermind" appears in the new books and that B&K claim they are basing the main story lines on FH's unpublished writings (notes, outlines, what have you). The wording of the article here should reflect that reality and include no speculative attributions. --SandChigger 05:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm actually working on something featuring a character named "Omnius", too. Now I find out it's taken. Sucks, doesn't it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.97.33.132 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

So? What's the problem? I mean no offense but, seriously, it's not a very original name for some sort of "ALL-controlling" entity, is it? (I mean, look who else came up with it.) It's a common enough Latin word, after all.
But if you're afraid of them coming after you, come up with something else. Acronyms are always fun! :) --SandChigger 17:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)