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Article Grading: Could probably do with some sort of reactions section I think, including comments from various political leaders, just to put the event in a historical context. For example the INLA announced a ceasefire immediately after, and the RIRA some time after as well, and I'm pretty sure the PIRA made a statement about the bombing as well. Also the bombing did tend to make the peace process all the more important as well, so I really think some sort of reactions section is needed. One Night In Hackney303 12:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC) Perhaps someone would like to do that instead of trying to make a point? One Night In Hackney303 16:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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[edit] Intent of the warnings -- thoughts
The belief that the warnings were deliberately misleading is the one put forward by Flanagan 'and' Omagh bombing victims Michael Gallagher and Victor Barker 'and' by journalists in The Telegraph articles (1) (2)-- not quotes of other people, but in the voice of the paper itself-- as well as by the QC, who said it as a representative of the British government. These are not "random quotes". Prosecution witnesses in the McKevitt trial and people associated with the RIRA have said that the warnings were accidental. Wikipedia can't just say "they're right and everyone else is lying"-- especially when that means explicitly accusing the British government of lying. As of right now, I think this article represents both views fairly. 24.32.208.58 (talk) 04:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's presented terribly right now. The QC is demonstrably lying, Flanagan made his claim without evidence the day of the bombing, in fact the whole thing seems to be based on quotes from people on the street. This doesn't say anything like you claim, in fact it says "Police believe the warnings given by the Real IRA were deliberately misleading" - why aren't the RUC backing Flanagan's line? Why do you think Victor Barker doesn't say what he knows to be the truth after meeting with the RIRA? Because he won't get a penny from his civil suit if he said that, it's in his interests to say that. When I get time tomorrow I'll cite the scholarly source to balance out this nonsense. One Night In Hackney303 04:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Seeing as there is no such street as "Main Street" could the caller have said "the main street,Omagh, courthouse,etc.? Also, is it possible the bombers geniunely erred in their estimation of the distance from the courthouse to Kell's shop?I have been to Omagh;the street is actually very short in length.I was astounded that the RUC just didn't evacuate the entire street and put the cordon at Campsie Street.--82.57.21.73 (talk) 08:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)--82.57.21.73 (talk) 08:34, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Dixon
I have corrected the incorrect information from this timeline. Before anyone bleats, please look at the original story from the same source. The taped conversation did not happen three before the bombing, it happened a few days before Dixon fled Ireland which was in January 2002. It says so twice in the original report - "In the recording, made only days before the informer was forced to flee Ireland, Dixon warns the Irish state that 'Omagh is going to blow up in their faces'" and "Dixon tells White on the tape, recorded on 10 January 2002". In the same taped conversation it's said that there was a "clandestine deal between the Irish government and the Real IRA just weeks after the bombing led to charges being dropped against eight men arrested following the explosion", so it couldn't possibly have been taped before the bombimng! Dixon was never in a position to know about Omagh beforehand. He wasn't in the RIRA, he was a car thief who stole cars on behalf of a RIRA member, and knew nothing about the final plans as they were handled by a different ASU. One Night In Hackney303 05:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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- If the detailed story contradicts a brief snippet on the same subject, then it does seem obvious that the actual story itself would take precedence. 70.234.246.95 (talk) 03:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Movie reference
Why was Omagh (film) removed from the 'See Also' section? 70.234.246.95 (talk) 03:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Because it's linked to inline in another section. One Night In Hackney303 03:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] talk page
Shouldn't the comments that are around a year or more old be moved to some kind of archive? They don't really discuss anything that isn't already settled. 70.234.246.95 (talk) 03:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bill Clinton
The article fails to mention Bill Clinton's visit to Omagh shortly after the bombing.Not only was he the first American president to visit Northern Ireland,he was also the first to display interest in The Troubles.--jeanne (talk) 13:28, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- He visited Northern Ireland long before Omagh, and I don't see the relevance. If you're that concerned, add it yourself. One Night In Hackney303 14:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry ONIH, I'd forgotten he visited Fermanagh where some of his ancestors came from.I think it is important that he visited Omagh-perhaps I'lljeanne (talk) 15:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC) add it later.
- There was the famous visit to Belfast when he shook hands with Gerry Adams, that was well before Omagh. Indeed, it was in 1995, see here. One Night In Hackney303 15:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
