Talk:Olympic Stadium (Montreal)
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[edit] Stadium Seating Capacity
This article suggests that Olympic stadium has the largest seating capacity of any similar facility in Canada. This was once true, but not any more. In the late 1980's, the stadium was reconfigured to better suit the primary tenant, the Montreal Expos baseball club. Prior to this reconfiguration, the stadium would seat approximately 70,000 in fixed seats (it now seats approximately 56,000, as indicated in the main article). This current capacity puts Olympic stadium third in Canada, behind both B.C. Place and Commonwealth stadium (Edmonton) in terms of permanent seating capacity (both facilities seat approximately 60,000). Olympic stadium can still have temporary seating added for major events (such as the Grey Cup), bringing it's capacity to approximately 65,000. However, these seats cannot be counted as fixed or permanent seating. Posthocergopropterhoc 16:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
From the article:
Among its options for the future of the stadium, the Quebec government is known to be studying its demolition, a project that would cost a further $500 million and be very technically complex.
Why would it be so expensive to demolish the stadium? I mean, I know you have to protect the surrounding buildings, but $500 million? That seems insanely expensive. Funnyhat 06:35, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Welcome to la Belle Province...
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- Haha. Anyway I dont know if its true but It could be since theres a metro line running right underneath of it i dont think they could just drop the tower and let it crash down, maybe it could collapse the tunnel, also its a huge complex connected to the biodome with many animals in it, so maybe $500 million is possible.
A fourth replacement roof is being considered as of March 2006.
I do not know what that 4th replacement roof will look like, but I envision that roof as a retractable roof NOT like the first one. Jim856796 15:15, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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- On the news (CFCF) they said it was going to be a permenant concrete roof, so they could hold events in the winter, but they needed to reinforce the tower to carry the extra load, but no one wants to pay for it.
On the page it says that they sold the FieldTurf system for $1 million. If they did that how are they going to have anymore sporting events? Was the field turf not required?
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- They use the really ugly old AstroTurf :( , as seen in the 2006 CFL playoffs. MartinToupin 16:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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- More OIB glory... I understand they bought new turf for the 2007 FIFA U20 championship this spring... but didn't check with FIFA to make sure it was an approved surface. You know what's coming, right? FIFA didn't approve the turf, so they had to buy replacement turf again just weeks before the tournament... bang goes another million or so. Posthocergopropterhoc 16:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Trivia Section
The sourced article (dated oct 2005) says that the Olympic Stadium would be paid off by the end of June. This one (dated today, July 17 2006) says "Montreal will finally see relief from payments on the stadium in a couple of months". Anyone know an accurate date?
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- News reports in November of 2006 indicated that the stadium debt had finally been paid off by the city. Posthocergopropterhoc 16:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Kevlar roof
Why is the size of the roof be specified as a length? Shouldn't it be an area, therefore in feet squared or meters squared? 70.52.7.54 17:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Also related to the kevlar roof, the article states that the roof is made of "over 60,000 square feet (18,000 square metres) of kevlar". Obviously one of these numbers is incorrect. As the source of the information is not immediately obvious, I would suggest that 60,000 square feet is likely correct (meaning the correct metric measurement should be 5,575 square meters). I will make this change. --ZoQuo 20:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tour de Montréal
I've searched wikipedia inside and out and found no article about the stadium's Tour de Montréal. The tower is barely mentioned in the Olympic Stadium article. The tallest inclined structure in the world more than deserves its own page...
[edit] Official name of stadium
Quite a number of anonymous edits have been recently made to the article changing the name of the stadium to "Le Stade Olympique", the French language spelling. The official name, from the time it was built, has always been the English name of "The Olympic Stadium". Furthermore it conflicts with the article's title of "Olympic Stadium (Montreal)", and I don't even need mention this is an English encyclopedia. Yes, granted there is a French way of spelling it, and among French speakers in this province this is how it is probably referred to by most, but to the international world (and English speakers in Quebec) it is referred to by its official English name, which should be reflected in this article. Please leave it as such. This anonymous name changing seems politically motivated.
The article on the Eiffel Tower doesn't call it "La tour d'eiffel" (other than a mention of how its pronounced in French). The Sun Life Building in Montreal isn't called "Bâtiment de la vie du soleil". Now in the case of say Blue Bonnets race track, the name was officially changed to Hippodrome de Montreal and so that is the article's title and how it's referred to in there.--Apple2gs 21:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
- not to get into the politics of things, but examining ticket stubs going back to 2003 the stubs to events as of november 2004 start reffering to the stadium as "le stade au parc olymique" or "the stadium at olympic park". According to calls made to the olympic installations board at the time the answer was they were changing the name to open the door for naming rights to be sold, As far as I can tell the name right now is "the stadium at the olympic park" just my 2 cents soyonsexpositifs 12:09, 26 september 2007
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- See pages on Olympic stadiums in Munich and Rome. Even though this is the english Wiki, they still use the offical German and Italian languages. The official name of the stadium has been the French name Le Stade Olympic. It doesnt matter how it is referred to by English speakers either inside or outside Quebec. 152.7.200.137 17:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
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- User Apple2gs doesn't have the first idea and can't get a name right, not unlike Bens De Luxe Delicatessen & Restaurant. The Olympic Stadium is owned by the RIO which operates the Parc olympique (or Olympic Park.) So, it is correct to summize that the real name of the stadium is "le stade au parc olymique" or "the stadium at olympic park". This clearly shows up on the RIO website and literature ... but, in one annual report they do mention the "stade olympique." Now, bear in mind, since the PQ and the charter of the French language (Bill 101) that Quebec is not bilingual, certainly not English, but is UNILINGUAL French. So in terms of official names of property own by the Quebec Government there IS NO ENGLISH! I should know, I saw the first game in the Big 0 (Canada vs USSR soccer the day after the opening ceremony) the first football game (the Als beat the Riders) and the first concert (ELP, and then later Pink Floyd.) I washed all this down with a smoked meat/chopped liver combo and beer at Ben's. 216.254.162.221 23:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
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- Go pick up any recently published newspaper, magazine or book, it is, and always has been referred to as "The Olympic Stadium" -- not "Le Stade au Parc Olymique" or even "Le Stade Olympic" (except in the French media, which is of course the correct translation). Still, it wouldn't surprise me if the Quebec government has officially renamed it in their continuing xenophobic effort to erratic all traces of the English language from the province (as you so clearly point out). We don't need to expand that mean spirited pettiness to the Internet, and I don't think the rest of the international community welcomes it either. That said, I and most others welcome a mention of the French spelling of the stadium (and a mention of its new name, if it has indeed been officially changed) but for the sake of recognition and the fact Wikipedia is an ENGLISH encyclopedia, the name "Olympic Stadium" needs to stand. Again, look no further than the Eiffel Tower article as an example. Though if you'd like, go ahead and change that name too and see what others have to say about it.--Apple2gs 01:43, 27
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As the stadium is owner by the Government of Quebec and located in the Province of Quebec, the Charter of the French Language law (Bill 101) means that the official name of the stadium is the french name. By law no English names are to use used in the province. In keeping with other Olympic stadia on the English wikipedia, they are all refered by the official name in a language other than english. See Estadio Olímpico Universitario, Stadio Olimpico, Estadi Olímpic Lluís Companys, Stade Olympique Yves-du-Manoir, Olympisch Stadion (Antwerp) and Olympisch Stadion (Amsterdam). 129.215.7.181 12:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- I assume then you will be changing fr:Centre Rogers to fr:Rogers Centre shortly? - BillCJ 17:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Hmmm. It's nearly 3 weeks later, and fr:Centre Rogers has not been moved to fr:Rogers Centre as yet. Very interesting. Anyway, what else can we expect from the people who call Nova Scotia "Nouvelle-Écosse", when "Nova Scotia" is a Latin word that is closer to French than English! I don't hear of the Anglophones agitating to call it "New Scotland"! - BillCJ (talk) 00:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- The whole discussion is an irrelevant waste of time and energy. As you may or may not know, over the past 30 years the province (not nation!) of Quebec has sanctioned soft ethnic cleansing, with the goal of eliminating all traces of the English language and culture for petty reasons. Some of the laws here are so absurdly ridiculous and racist, people from elsewhere think you're kidding when you discuss what goes on here. They even have a government run Language Police, which go around hunting for offensive English signs and free uses of English in public or the workplace. It's like something out of Alice in Wonderland...or should I say Distinctland. Bottomline is some people believe that elimination of English in Quebec should extend onto the Internet. I say ignore them...they're just as invalid here as they are in the real world. Apple2gs (talk) 03:39, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
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- The above arguments are starting to get off-topic. The argument has nothing to do with "ethnic cleansing" or other anti-English people. According to a democratically voted law in Canada, the official name of the stadium is the French name. 24.211.187.223 (talk) 02:43, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] From the horse's mouth
I find it interesting that the Govenment of Quebec's own website for the Olympic Park complex refers to the stadium as Olympic Stadium. I hope that settles the issue, at least as far as for those editors who will accept reliable sources. - BillCJ (talk) 04:42, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Australia Pavilion
An anon IP editor from the City of Montreal inserted a reference that Tallibert's design was based on the Australia Pavilion at Expo 70 in Osaka. While there is indeed a strong similarity I can find no evidence yet that there's anything more to the story, other than the City of Montreal staffer's intriguing original research. Does anyone know if there's any actual evidence showing that the architect was inspired by this? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- The IP has posted at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page#Olympic Stadium Montreal. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've restored this edit. Later, when I have time, I'll link to the amazing images.Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- added images (they're amazing) add proposed a slightly different wording, since we don't (as yet) have written proof that Roger saw and was inspired by this design. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've restored this edit. Later, when I have time, I'll link to the amazing images.Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] More included
This Parc Olympique includes more than just the Olympic Stadium (Montreal). Peter Horn 16:56, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Such as the Montreal Biodome Peter Horn 17:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
- Absolutely. I had meant to remove the redirect from Parc Olympic to this article and create at least a stub for a new Olympic Park article. An Olympic Village article is also needed, as I believe it is a notable structure and design in its own right. Thanks for raising this, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
