Talk:Olivet discourse

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[edit] Request for improvement of power link

This article contains the following passage:

===The Tribulation===

As well as the destruction of the temple, Jesus is described by the synoptics as warning that when the abomination of desolation is seen, the denizens of Judea should flee to the mountains as a matter of such urgency that they shouldn't even return to get things from their homes, or turn round just to pick up a coat. Jesus is also described as warning that if it happened in winter, things would be even more intolerable, and that either way things would be singularly dreadful, and worse than anything that had gone before. More specifically, Jesus is portrayed as fleshing out these vague references to a situation by stating that the sun would darken, and the moon would not give off light, that the stars would fall, and the powers that are in heaven would be shaken.

The word 'powers' (8th word from end of the passage) is a link to the Power disambiguation page. This page contains many possible meanings for power; some are obviously irrelevant, such as electric power. There are two articles that might be relevant, one is Deity, and another is Angels (which mentions that powers are one of the orders of angels.)

I request that someone who understands this passage either change the link so it points to an appropriate article, or change it to an ordinary word instead of a link. Gerry Ashton 04:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem is that there are several interpretations - with different religious groups favouring one or other. Gnostic interpretations of the passage are extremely different to Protestant interpretations, for example, especially around key phrases like the powers, so to favour one meaning over another is an example of strong POV. Consequently, if the link must exist then it really should be to a disambiguation page, or one that discusses how various religious groups interpret the powers; the latter doesn't exist, leaving only the former option. Clinkophonist 18:08, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll leave the power link as is. Gerry Ashton 20:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you gonna fix the vandalism or what?

[edit] NPOV/ poorly done.

The quality of writing on this page is really very poor, also it is not at all objective, instead it is written from a single Christian perspective. Rjbonacolta 14:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation 5

Is from a Christian website, is currently unavailable, and in any case is completely subjective and its views not within the purview of an encyclopedia. Please change this. Also, the statement connected with it is highly controversial. While there seems to be a need for this article, it is in need of serious attention from scholars uninterested in advancing, if I may coin a word, a theodoxical position. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.98.231 (talk) 00:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)