Talk:Olga of Kiev

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Contents 1 Bulgarian origin of Olga 2 There is no such language "Cyrillic" 3 Christianity in Kyivan Rus 4 Prince of Kiev? 5 Lev Gumilev's theory 6 Edward Gibbon section 7 WikiProject class rating

[edit] Bulgarian origin of Olga

There is a hypothesis that Olga was a Bulgarian princess (from Pliska, and not from Pskov). She may have been the daughter of either Tsar Simeon the Great or of his deposed brother, the apostate Prince/Khan Vladimir-Rasate. Olga's presumed Royal Bulgarian origin could explain the ease with which her son, Prince Svyatoslav, managed to conquer both Danubian Bulgaria and Volga Bulgaria. --Vladko 20:58, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] There is no such language "Cyrillic"

According to the most accepted version, Olga was born near Pskov (what is present day Russia) and spent most of her life and became famous in Kiev (what is present-day Ukraine). Both languages are relevant. What was the reason for your edit war with Sashazlv? Just to remove the mentioning of Ukrainian language?--AndriyK 13:11, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

I corrected and inserted a special ru/ua template I deviced some time ago just for the cases like these. Hope everyone's happy. --Irpen 17:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Christianity in Kyivan Rus

Was it not accepted by St.Olga in 988?

[edit] Prince of Kiev?

Surely the title in the succession box shouldn't be Prince, rather Princess or Regent. Lemmy Kilmister 09:55, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lev Gumilev's theory

Lev Gumilev's account of Olga:

Having assumed the supreme power in 945, Olga broke with the policy of the Khazar-Rus' alliance, conducted by her predecessors. Like her grandson Vladimir, she declared in favour of the Byzantine alliance. In 949, she sent her troops to take part in the Byzantine expedition against Crete. In 957, she went to Constantinople, converted to Christianity and declared war on Khazaria. Seven years later, her youthful son, in alliance with Pechenegs and Torks, sacked Atil, Samandar, and Sarkel. At that very period, the level of the Caspian Sea rose by five meters, submerging the delta of the Volga, together with the capital of the Khazars. Ibn Haukul reports that, after sacking Samandar, the Rus' started a war against Rum and Al-Andaluz, i.e., Byzantium and Spain. Indeed, the Rus effected a landing in Galicia in 968; they sacked Santiago, killed the local bishop and were not repulsed (by Count Gonzalo Sanchez) until 971.

Any comments? What of this should be reflected in the text of the article? --Ghirla ^-трёп- 13:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't see here anything terribly new apart from the ides that it was Olga's initiative to break with a Rus'-Khazar alliance, but Gumilev is probably the only historian who thought that way. The rest is actually not about her. Beit Or 07:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edward Gibbon section

This seems to be a simply a large quote without any processing or even marking, and with style sharply conflicting that of the previous parts of the article. Perhaps some rewriting is in order (i.e., put encompassing text and mark the quotating as such?) I'm willing to do that, provided some reason doesn't exist of keeping that section as is. IgorSF 04:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I suppose it should be moved to WikiSource. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 08:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 13:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)