Talk:Olde English Bulldogge
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This article was nominated for deletion on 4 January 2007. The result of the discussion was keep. |
This breed of dog is not a Category:Dog fighting breed, it was never used for that. The balance of the article is well written, why such heavy editing ? If you want to add on more info that is good, but why move info around for no apparent reason ? WritersCramp 23:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
- Because the headings and organization don't match the standards for dog breeds; there are better titles than those there. Because the intro has a lot of stuff in it that's not intro. Because there are better ways to phrase, spell, and punctuate what was there. That's why. Wikipedia is about collaborative editing to make text better, not about preserving your exact original text; hence, I'm reverting. If you really think that it's not better written, better organized, and better conforming to the general approach outlined in the WikiProject dog breeds, I recommend that you raise the discussion before reverting again. Learn to work with a group.
- As for the guy, I didn't remove the mention but I find it's hard to believe that he's significant enough to ever warrant his own article; you can create the article and I'll reserve judgement to when I actually see it.
- As for the dog fighting breeds, if it doesn't belong in that category, there's most certainly no reason for fighting breeds to be listed prominently in the See also. Can you justify that?
- And now that I'm not so annoyed about having my text reverted *before* you asked why I did it--of course you can edit from there. That's a much better way of developing an article than reverting. Elf | Talk 21:07, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Citing sources
References vs Books vs Further reading: see my question & answer and links to related discussions at Wikipedia talk:Cite sources. There's no precedence for "Books", and it's still in debate over whether references & further reading should be separate or the same, but I'll go for further reading.
Also, something to consider: WP does not have a standard style for the list of cited sources. However, there's a nice example here and I've been trying to get all the dog-related articles to use that same format so that they look consistent. If you want to use that format, I'd be delighted; if you dont' have strong feelings about it, I can go ahead and change the format. If you do have strong feelings about it--please say something now or forever hold your bulldogges. Elf | Talk 21:07, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
- The format I used at University was similiar to MLA, Wiki is using APA, I am easy going on the matter. WritersCramp
[edit] Englishe?
A change from "Olde Englishe Bulldogge" to "Olde English Bulldogge" has been reverted not too long ago. I wonder why. All the external links we provide use "English" (including the "International Olde English [sic] Bulldogge Association"), and Google counts 100 instances of "Olde English Bulldogge" for every instance of "Olde Englishe Bulldogge". I'm changing it back to English. Of course the article should be moved as well. Algae 19:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Contemporary breed or older breed?
The main bulldog article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English_Bulldog) says that this breed (the Olde English Bulldogge) is a contemporary attempt to recreate English Bulldogs from earlier times. This article says that "(t)he Olde English Bulldogge originated in England between 1600 and 1700".
Clarification of facts that differ between the two articles please?
- The above is an unsigned edit from User:82.133.79.7 (09:09, December 25, 2006).[1]
The Olde English Bulldogge is an effort to recreate the ancient English Bulldog. [1] The ancient English Bulldog, now extinct, is also called the Old English Bulldog. My two cents would be that the main bulldog article on Wikipedia is the one called Bulldog.
The current version of the sentence in the Olde English Bulldogge that I believe you are referring to is
The Olde English Bulldogge is a modern attempt to breed a dog similar to the bulldogs that existed in England between 1600 and 1700, the latter commonly referred to today as the Old English Bulldog which is an extinct breed of dog.
This statement reflects how I understand this part of the history and lineages of the various kinds of bulldogs.
Hope that helps; if not, please ask. Keesiewonder 14:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- ^ Fogle, Bruce; Tracy Morgan (2000). The new encyclopedia of the dog. New York: Dorling Kindersley, 381. ISBN 0789461307.
[edit] New Olde English Bulldogge Photos
- New photos have been added to the list of Olde English Bulldogge photos as requested. I have also added a couple of new referances to the reference section of the main article and replaced the picture with one that displays the dogs whole body. I hope I didn't over step my boundries? Don Pelon 03:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Would like to validate this page
To those concerned. I would like to help validate this page but my knowledge on how to use Wikipedia is VERY limited. I appreciate all the help everyone has contributed to this page. I would like to learn just how to validate it. I am learning my way around slowly so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Yes, I have much knowledge on the FACTS to this breed and would like to help portray them appropriately within the pages of Wikipedia. Sincerely, Don Pelon (talk) 05:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I have re-formatted the article so that it doesn't look like an adevertisement. I still have to rectify the citations and add photos. I am still trying to figure out how to create a reflist in correlation to the citations wihin in the article. This article will be on going due to my lack of knowledge on how to use wikipedia. As time allows I will continue to update referances as well as citations. Help from all editors of categories relating to this article will be welcome. Thank you, Don Pelon (talk) 07:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Photos
I do feel there a some better photos available at the commons that could be used on this page particularly this one. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Olde_English_Bulldogge_Duke.jpg --Ltshears (talk) 17:42, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
