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[edit] border state

under Geographic usage: Tennessee is (was) not a border state. The border of TN did not touch any Union States. {unsigned}

Arkansas was not a border state either...This is really not making any sense. Basically, it is almost as if this article calls Arkansas a Deep South state as well as a border state. It's pretty confusing.ArkSoutherner 17:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chivalry

Regarding this sentence:

Certain groups now wish to rescue the term from racist connotations by stating that they desire to celebrate only the things about the Old South which might be considered "good", such as "southern chivalry".

Southern Chivalry is racist in origin because it arose from the Souths fascination with all things connected to Sir Walter Scott, and in particular his novel Ivanhoe, which is set in Feudal times. Chivalry is also of "feudal" origin and was the aesthetic ideal of Scott's novels. Why is feudalism racist? Because many have compared the Southern social system with its lords and serfs, which is why it held such obsession for the south in the 19thC. See also Twains Huckleberry Finn. -- Stbalbach 22:37, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

"Subjegation" is both misspelled and is a biased characterization of the Union status of Maryland. It is a pejorative. The sentence after that one, about the fact that states can't deny their Southern origin also seems like it has an agenda attached to it.

38.100.223.90 (talk) 22:39, 28 April 2008 (UTC)