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Contents 1 Wong Chak 1.1 Very strange 2 Untrue 3 Pin Yin 4 Cameo character 5 Cowboy 6 Truth 7 Timing

[edit] Wong Chak

Old Master Q was not created by Wong Chak. Another cartoonist 朋弟created the character in the late 1930s, his work was published in the newspapers in TienTsin. Wong Chak worked in TienTsin in the 1950s, moved to Hong Kong in the 1960s and started using 朋弟's character. For forty plus years, Wong Chak claimed Old Master Q as his own creation. A writer 馮驥才 wrote a book and published 朋弟 's original Old Master Q a few years ago. The two Old Master Q look over 90% similar.

See the Chinese version of this article for a link to 馮驥才's work.

[edit] Very strange

Some anonymous users kept removing part of the article that argues who is the real author of Old Master Q. The same user always do the removal and disappear.

71.137.235.151 00:27, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Untrue

It's a shame that somebody is using this to create trouble for the man who has brought laughter and happiness to readers for 40 years through his comics.

Wong Chak created "Old Master Q" over 40 years ago, and has long surpassed Peng Di's work. Mr Wong's works are not only richly creative, but also had independent registration since early on.

Read the Chinese version of this article, and the external links from there. If you cannot read Chinese, the cartoon on top is Peng Di's work published in TienTsin in the 1930s. At the bottom is Alfonso Wong's work in the 60s-80s. You be the judge, are they the same character? It's a shame that the original creator wasn't given credit for his work, utter shame on someone who stole the work of others and claimed it to be his own creation. Equally shameless are those who attempted to hide the truth. I enjoyed reading Alfonso's works since I was a kid too. No objection to the fact that he had brought laughter to lots of people in the past 40+ years. But the truth remains Peng Di created the character and every reader who loves Old Master Q deserves to know the truth. Oldie 18:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pin Yin

Can anyone pls. include the pinyin for those actor/actresses involved in the movie?

[edit] Cameo character

Old Master Q occasionally have an Cameo character by Wong Sima who created the comic strip "Au Chai" (literally trans Cow Boy). Usually Old Master will ridicule or prank that boy Father (who is bald headed and have a mustache). I wonder, does they have permit too use Wong Sima character in Old Master Q?

[edit] Cowboy

I have included the Pinyin for all actor/actresses. Please amend if they are incorrect.

Mr Wong Sima and Mr Wong Chak were friends and had many strips of cartoons that involved Old Master Q, Cowboy and his parents. Some issues from last year of Old Master Q published in Hong Kong twice a month featured Cowboy and briefly explained the relationship between the 2 authors.omqforum 00:21, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Truth

If the idea of OMQ has been plagiarised, people would've sued WangZ Inc and won.

omqforum 02:29, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If OMQ was first created in the U.S., you're probably right for a case as obvious as this. But Peng Di did that work in war-torn China during the 1930s. Anyone with a little knowledge of China knows what happened in the 50 or 60 years in China after that: change of governments, no copyright laws until the 1980s, original creator died in poverty. Even if the creator's descendents sue and win, Any copyrights might expire in not so distant future; also judgements in China may not be enforced in other parts of the world. 71.137.235.151 07:29, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timing

Wong Chak was only 16 years old by 1940, and he began studying Western Art at Beijing Catholic University. Mr Wong could not have stolen Peng Di's work, because by the time he could draw professionally, Peng Di's work had been out of publication for many years. omqforum 10:31, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

This argument based on timing is rediculous. A cartoonist does not need to buy somebody's work from the bookstore the day before he plagiarize them. Young Alfonso, who I assume must be interested in drawing as a teenager, might have learned drawing by practising drawing Peng Di's invention. After ten or twenty years he could probably draw Old Master Q without even taking a look at Peng Di's original work. I as a teenager have practiced drawing Doraemon hundreds of time. And now after twenty years I can still draw Doraemon with my eyes closed.

There's a Chinese proverb 欲蓋彌彰。 Please don't insult Old Master Q's readers intelligence. 71.143.153.207 23:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)