Talk:Ohio State Route 732

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This article is no longer a stub but describes the highway in some detailMarqqq (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)Marqqq It now contains at least 5 links to pertinent wikipedia articles.

It is a stub; read WP:USRD/A. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 21:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

This clearly not a stub but a fairly complete description of the road with links to maps and other relevant images.Marqqq (talk) 15:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)Marqqq

It is a stub. There's no history, no junction list, and what is there is poorly written (hence why the article is both flagged for attention and tagged for a rewrite). The infobox is also lacking. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 23:11, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

As an addendum, I don't see how the image currently in the article has to do with the road. To me, it looks like a random tree in random woods alongside the road. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 23:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Concerning the picture you are quite wrong. It is part of the original beech maple forest which was once widespread, so now this area is a significant area for naturalists wishing to study such ecosystems. I noticed that you have edited the 9N page in N.Y. The "coast" of Lake George? This 9N article gives the reader little sense of the topography. You might write a bit of this in for the traveler. 143.49 miles? I think that does mathematics a bit of disservice. Was that from the point of view of the northbound lane or the southbound lane? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marqqq (talk • contribs) 03:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Marqqq (talk) 03:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Marqqq

It's from south to north, since that's how the New York State Department of Transportation inventories the route. Not sure what your point is there, though. If you don't believe the road is that long, I invite you to check the referenced document for yourself. Also, I didn't write the 9N description. In any event, NY 9N is not the best in terms of road articles - if you want a rock-solid example, read Interstate 355 - a featured article. Also read WP:OHSH for standards that this article should adhere to. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 03:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

TwinsMetsFan is correct, this is a stub. see Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads as we're developing a standard for what's what. Stub in terms of assessment is looked at differently that what WP:WSS looks at.  — master son^{T - C} 03:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC) I have included an entirely appropriate citation Marqqq (talk) 04:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Marq I checked the definition of a Stub: this no longer fits the definition since it has a junction list and a description.Marqqq (talk) 05:39, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Marqqq

No, there's currently no distinction between the article's lead and its route description. The junction list is also sub-standard. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 05:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

What's wrong with the junction list? As usual you give nothing constructive-quite sub-standard commentsMarqqq (talk) 05:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)Marqqq

If you would like to see some good examples of how a page should look, look at Interstate 355 which is the most recent article from WP:USRD to be passed as a feature article. For other examples, see M-209 (Michigan highway) or M-554 (Michigan highway), both of which are former MI state trunkline highways under a mile in length that are rated at B-Class. I can offer you other examples if you like.

1. As said above, there isn't a clear WP:LEAD and other sections established. For starters, the first line should be something like "State Route 732 is a 30-mile (48 km) highway in the U.S. state of Ohio." The rest of the lead should briefly summarize the rest of the article. Give a couple lines of summary on the routing, some more on the history. What's unique about SR 732?
2. Yes, there's a route description, but it needs to be in a section under that name. It should start at the south or west end and run to the north or east end.
3. There isn't a history section. How did this roadway come to be called SR 732? Was it part of another highway? When did it get formed?
4. The junction list should be in a table format. Take a look at the table on M-35 (Michigan highway) which is listed as a good article for an idea on how they look.
5. The infobox isn't formatted correctly as well. There should be links to the articles on the other highways listed. The counties should be wikilinked as well. The highway articles might not exist, so your infobox might have redlinks for now, and that's ok too.
6. Do you have a source for the length? Any map will do if needed, but maybe an official source from ODOT? Most good sources will give you a length to at least two decimal places, if not three.
7. You don't need to include the ZIP codes of the communities along the highway, but you should wikilink to the articles on them.
8. The prose used could be cleaned up to be easier to read as well.

We are open to questions and suggestions to help. Please take my list above as constructive criticism. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Imzadi1979 (talk) 06:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Just to follow-up to that, for the Ohio Roads Project, Junction Lists need to be formatted and referenced like that shown in Ohio State Route 430 and Ohio State Route 590. DanTheMan474 (talk) 19:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

It's generally common practice across USRD to place the mileage reference in the "Mile" table header, as shown here. Any state using the {{jctint}} family of templates (which Ohio is) can add the "|length_ref=" parameter to the table top (here {{OHinttop}}) to put the mileage reference in the proper location. --TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats} 02:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Now that a few of us USRD editor blitzed through, it is a Start class article. It has defined sections, proper citations (except where tagged needing them), a correct infobox and junction list. Now, to be a proper B-Class article, it needs a History section written and referenced. Imzadi1979 (talk) 07:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)