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[edit] The death of Ofra Haza
I do not know if it is appropriate even to mention it, but her family wanted Haza's husband tested for AIDS insisting that she could not have got it any other way. I know he refused while he was still alive and his family refused once he died. Anyone know why they are so sure it was a blood transfusion? Lao Wai 18:16, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
- Heck yeah it's appropriate to mention it. There is absolutely controversy surrounding the deaths of Ofra and her husband. He died of a drug overdose and an autopsy was performed, but the results went straight to the family and have not been released to the public. Having contracted AIDS from a blood transfusion or from your drug addict husband is all the difference in the world. So yes, there's quite a bit of controversy about it and I'm surprised that it's not mentioned here. Readparse 00:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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- If there are known facts or credible reports on the events that lead to Haza's death, we should include them. I heard that the possibility that Haza got HIV through a blood transfusion and infected her husband is being considered. However, I could not find it in a document, so forget what I said. The article I did find, just now, was scrutinizing the point that her husband probably was not tested for HIV at the beginning of the relationship (testimonies seem to strengthen this point). This direction was very much the intuitive response. It was based on actual testimonies that Haza was unlikely to have been infected in a previous relationship. Haza was loved, Ashkenazi not so much. Also for this there are reasons. It does not imply however how Haza got infected. gidonb 21:39, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chamish's conspiracy theory
Has anyone explored whether there is any credibility to the "Ofra Haza conspiracy theory", the idea that her husband was actually a hitman (using HIV as the weapon) in the service of a prominent Israeli politician? [1] Albanaco 20:35, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know of anyone who researched such claims. It would surprise me if someone did. gidonb 21:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
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- The claim that Ofra Haza was assassinated is described on the linked site original given above (http://www.barrychamish.com/html/ofra_haza_murder.html). The basic outline of the theory is that she had unintentionally stumbled upon some type of criminal activity involving a certain prominent Israeli politician with whom she had had an affair, and said politician somehow pressured her to marry her husband, who was actually a hitman in his employ (using HIV as the weapon). It sounds incredible, but there might be something to it. Of course, before including such information in the main article, there should be some objective research backing up the allegations either way (unless they are referred to in that context, similar to a Kennedy assassination theory). Albanaco 00:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Hi Albanaco, the article Barry Chamish touches upon Chamish's conspiracy theory for the death of Ofra Haza. You are very welcome to extend this theory a little with what you have read. Please include the reference after your text. I agree with you that with no evidence whatsoever this "incredible sounding" theory is a nonstarter for this article. Regards, gidonb 01:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Barry Chamish is basing some of his claims on a website called "Bambili", which was never related to as a serious website. It also had many foolish articles which are not based on any facts. The film "Primal Justice" was not popular because Ofra refused to help promote it, and it is a terrible movie. He forgot to mention that although it is a terrible movie, it was broadcast twice on Israeli channel 2, which has the most rating in Israel. Also, Ofra's family didn't live in Yehud, but in Tel Aviv. Yehud and Herzlia are the same distance from Tel Aviv, so Doron didn't move her away from her family, but from her manager Bezalel, who didn't like him. And about Peres inviting Ofra to sing at Olso, Noa (Achinoam Nini) was invited to sing in at the Nobel Peace Price before Ofra, but since she had no time for it - Ofra was invited. Ofra performd with Peres 4 times: Once with Margaret Thatcher, twice on Dan Shilon's show, and once in Oslo, when Peres recieved the Nobel Peace Prize. This is all - in about 20 years. Only twice can be considered as an invatation from Peres. That makes it once in 10 years. I believe there are many other singers that performed in front of Peres more then that. Ofra was already a popular and established singer by the 80s, saying that Peres helped her career doesn't make sense. It is unlikely that any of the Hazas ever met Barry at all. I believe Doron was the reason Ofra died, but this conspiracy has nothing to do with the truth. Doron just wanted her money, that's all. (Hammerdin 11:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC))
I say Ofra was an amazeing women who did not deserve to pass away so early
I say this is the discussion page for the article, not a memorial place ;-)
[edit] Order
Wouldn't it make more sense for the 'Marriage' section to be before the 'Obituary' section? Or has it been arranged in this way for some special reason? Slothie 13:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, as the article is written now, no mention of her death due to AIDS is made before the death section. If the marriage section is to come before that (and I agree that it would make more sense to do so), then some mention should be made earlier of the cause of her death. I will edit it as such and someone can revert if it is not a pleasing result. - 67.166.139.181 23:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pronunciation
The article says:
- Ofra Haza (Hebrew: עפרה חזה, IPA [ʕafˈraːʔ hazˈzaːʕ]) ...
Where does that pronunciation come from? It's neither Hebrew nor Arabic. — Babelfisch 06:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- [ʕafˈraːʔ] is Arabic عفراء and [hazˈzaːʕ] is also a common Arabic name هزّاع
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