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need a lot of information on the ocelots physical description, habitat, food, defence and protection, care of the young and the reasons why they are endangered.

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[edit] Ocelot kitten picture?

I actually think that "kitten" is an adult Margay. It can be very difficult to tell the difference though. Ocicat 07:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

The picture was originally uploaded by wikibooks:User:John Burkitt, who works at Tiger Touch, but you can always ask him to confirm at his talk page. — Laura Scudder 08:07, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Uploaded new picture of confirmed adult ocelot. Darthbob100 20:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed sentence

I removed the following stuff:

The name of the animal derives from Nahuatl ocelotl. It also comes from the Mexican Aztec word tlalocelot.

Since is not a language (the Aztec spoke Nahuatl!), and a word can't simultaneously derive from two different words from the same language, I have removed this and demand a cited source for this information. — Timwi 10:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

"a word can't simultaneously derive from two different words from the same language" — Why not? Oddity- (talk) 00:24, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USA or not?

Is the ocelot found in the USA, even rarely, or not? The article seems inconsistent.

The ocelot is usually found in the rain forests of South America, but curiously, it also inhabits brush land as far north as Texas, in the United States. The ocelot's range in the United States is Southern Oklahoma, sw Arkansas, w Louisiana, Texas, and extreme se Arizona. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the populations of ocelot in the United States are endangered, but populations elsewhere, to the best of my knowledge, are endangered as well due to over collection for pelts and the pet trade. The National Audubon Society's Field Guide to North American Mammals recommends The Santa Ana National Wildlife Refuge, along the Rio Grande, as the best opportunity to spot wild ocelots in the U.S., but ocelots also occur in many zoos nationwide, including the one at which I work. If you have any more questions, feel free to post them on my talk page.: The name of the animal derives from Nahuatl ocelotl. It also comes from the Mexican Aztec word tlalocelot. Morganismysheltie 00:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Endangered or not?

The ocelot shows here as not endangered, yet appears in the list of endangered species elsewhere in wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_species)Patrick Murrray 16:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, check out this article in The Post-Standard of Syracuse: Two ocelots will move to zoo at Burnet Park It looks like they are endangered. -newkai t-c 22:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

The one you are referring to is most likely the Texas Ocelot (Leopardus pardalis albescens). It is endangered while the other subspecies may or may not be. In general the Ocelot (L. pardalis) is not endangered while the Texas Ocelot subspecies (L. pardalis albescens) is. As for the other subspecies, I am not entirely sure. 67.186.251.240 23:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC) Daniel "Texas" Padia

[edit] Capitalisation

These edits of mine which changed "Ocelot" to "ocelot" in sentences like "While the Ocelot is well equipped for an arboreal lifestyle" were reverted by User:UtherSRG with the comment (on my talk page):

Please don't change caps
Several Wikiprojects endorse using caps for species common names. See WP:BIRD for the rationale.

I've asked for clarification on the bird project talk page and received this reply:

Yes, FWIW the edits you made were entirely along bird SOP. HBW uses it so I guess HMW would use it too.

I'm pretty sure that this sort of capitalisation isn't standard English and that the intent of the policy has been misread. What do other people think? — ciphergoth 08:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the capitalization seems totally wrong. Look at the page for "jaguar", it's never capitalized.

[edit] Genus

I've also seen the ocelot referred to as Felis pardalis rather than Leopardus pardalis. Is this an obsolete name, or do biologists disagree on its classification, or what? --Ptcamn 12:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

At one time, most if not all of the "small cats" were placed in Felis. Retaining the previous name is a habit of those who don't care about the modern understanding of the relationships. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Resemblence

Alright. Should it be mentioned that the ocelot resembles a jaguar more or a clouded leopard. I decided to write about this first instead of possibly causing an edit war. Or should it be both animals since this argument could continue on.Mcelite (talk) 23:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)mcelite

Perhaps both would be appropriate. Either way, we don't need to say it twice. I've removed the duplicate. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well ok both it is then.Mcelite (talk) 02:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)mcelite