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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

Hello Obina, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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--TheParanoidOne 21:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. For now I am focusing on the areas that I know from personal experience, adding detail, and removing clear falsehoods. There are not many falsehoods, but there are some.

Obina 09:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sithism

so you boldly redirect sithism to sith. should i have done that in the first place? for normal deletion, do i propose and wait for another to dlete or what? thanks

Yes, there was no need to nominate that article for deletion, as a simple redirect would have sufficed, but it's OK that you err on the side of caution (everybody's got to learn sometime). For normal deletions (things that should not exist in Wikipedia), you can nominate them and an administrator will handle the deletion (or determine if the article is to be kept). Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any more questions. Regards, howcheng [ t • c • w • e ] 00:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding afd vote

I'd like to encourage you to reconsider your vote on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel R. Anderson, particularly for Anderson himself. I you look at the first section of his revised article, it is evident he is a major force in the children's television industry, having helped develop Blue Clue's, Dora the Explorer, and Go! Diego Go!, the three highest rated programs currrently for kids 2-5 years old. -- user:zanimum

  • I was misled by the blanket AFD, my mistake. I've added to my AFD comment.Obina 10:45, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reunion Delete

Thank you for your balanced vote. The anonymous votes (probably sock puppets) and vote tampering raise my ire, but you kept your cool and offered a reasonable compromise. We need more of your kind on Wikipedia! --JeremyStein 04:04, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lally Katz

I came across it while stub-sorting and the claims, if true like enough to rise above the definition of vanity IMO. However, I didn't take the time to try verifying them. If they can't be verified then AFD would be appropriate. Caerwine Caerwhine 07:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] D6C

Hi. Following your comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/District Six Council, I was just wondering what you meant with 'nasty'? I believe I don't get the reference the D6C is alluding to? dewet|™ 21:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah, OK. I thought I missed an allusion somewhere. dewet|™ 12:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question forom Janusz Karpinski

Hi, this is Janusz Karpinski. I am writing to you because you voted "keep" in AfD for aetherometry entry. The present situation is that by Wikipedia standards there is no reputable secondary literature at all about aetherometry. The minority view is contained only in primary sources, which do not even fulfill Wikipedia standards for scientific references, and there are no other publications, so there is no majority view. "Majority view" here does not mean view of majority of Wikipedia administrators, it means published and generally accepted view of outside scientific community. There is nothing like this for aetherometry. As result, nothing in entry can be verified or referenced, it is all interpretation and opinion. This is not how encyclopedia should work, and is against Wikipedia policy. Since you said that entry should be kept, you must have idea how entry can start to provide verifiable encyclopedic information when there are no existing secondary sources. How can this problem be solved? I think you cannot just say "keep" and leave to others dealing with this problem, which to me seems completely not solvable. Please, describe what your solution is, and how you will personally help make aetherometry entry honest, reputable and verifiable. Sincerely, Janusz. Januszkarp 22:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] David Dom

You are not the only person who thinks this should have been deleted. See this deletion review. I'm getting a bit tired of this druid group, so I'm still waiting to see if anybody else nominates Jenni Heiden for deletion. Thank you for your offer to help and happy editing! Kusma (討論) 21:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the discussion at the deletion review shows that we should manage to delete this without having to campaign for it, which I would prefer. But I will leave a note here if the deletion review leads to the AfD being reopened. All the best, Kusma (討論) 22:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about the druid nomination! I had the page on my watchlist, but the new messages box is much harder to overlook. Kusma (討論) 23:15, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
The rest of the druids are now being debated again at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Karayana and David Dom and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenni Heiden. Looks like they will be deleted this time. Kusma (討論) 15:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Mennen Co

Hi, Looks like it's cleaning up nicely, well done. Maybe more notable than I thought from Google (111 hits). Dlyons493 Talk 21:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Your note on my user page meant a lot to me; sometimes it seems like editing on Wikipedia is nothing but giving of your best efforts and taking only abuse for it. It really means a lot to have you affirm that no, it shouldn't be like that. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:07, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hyperspace

Hi, could you do me a favor and revisit Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Hyperspace? ---CH 22:53, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding afd Kalendar Koffee House

Deleting Kalendar from the coffee house category is wrong. To claim that Kalendar is advertising is also incorrect. The Kalendar article lists date of opening and location with interior photo. The so called "vanity" aspects have been removed from the article. Kalendar may not be as "noteable" as the larger chains, but that should not preclude it from listing in the coffee house category. To call this article spam would be to call all listings in this category spam. The previous AFD article was edited down to be considered for inclusion - tis all. No harm intended. Please reconsider. The following is the opening paragraphs of the Starbucks listing. I imagine that all listings in this category are similar to this.

Starbucks NASDAQ: SBUX (SEHK: 4337), is a large multinational chain of coffee shops, often serving pastries, popular in the US especially among students and young urban professionals. The corporate headquarters are in Seattle, Washington. The company was in part named after Starbuck, a character in Moby-Dick, and its insignia is a stylized cartoon Siren. According to the company's fact sheet, as of February 2006, Starbucks had 6,216 company-operated outlets worldwide: 5,028 of them in the United States and 1,188 in other countries and U.S. territories. In addition, the company has 4,585 joint-venture and licensed outlets, 2,633 of them in the United States and 1,952 in other countries and U.S. territories.

By definition most of the listings in the coffee house category are "non-notable". In fact the majority of the listings are not known outside the constituency where they are established. Being "non-notable" has always been a difficult area for editors. In this instance for example, the band Pursuit of Happiness wrote a song and video about Kalendar (1996 Kalendar/Gretzky Rocks/In Praise Of (T.W.A.-The World's Address). This by definition makes Kalendar a noteable entity by Wikipedia standards see Wikipedia:Notability "A topic has notability if it is known outside of a narrow interest group or constituency, or should be because of its particular importance or impact". EllisCHanna 04:21, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : AfD/Alan Brazier

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately, that isn't considered a reliable source. The key here is 3rd party sources that is reputable and can be relied on. If you can find one, please include it in the article itself, let me know again and I will reconsider. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 10:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Masts for deletion

Hello. As the closing admin, I'm notifying the most active contributors to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina Tower Chapel Hill, which has now been closed, in case they want to take any action about it. Best, Sandstein 12:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sophia Yin

I'm sorry, I have no wish to bite you or anyone else. You will appreciate, I hope, that a tag for notabilility does not imply a deletion risk, either now or in the immediate future. It is just a request that you, or someone, should specify the particular attribute which makes this an article worth keepng. Assuming that you can do that sometime in the next week or so, we have no argument. But I am sincerely sorry if I upset you - it's just how wikipedia works.--Anthony.bradbury 16:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chad Hauf AfD

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. Both listings are showing up correctly here; I'm sure it was just a transient problem. Nobody seems to have looked at Nightlife venues since I did a procedural on that last week, either. Tevildo 23:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] proposed deletion

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from C Anderson Johnson, which you proposed for deletion, because I feel that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aoife Mulholland

A tag has been placed on Aoife Mulholland, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article is a repost of either already posted material, or of material that was previously deleted under Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. If you can indicate how Aoife Mulholland is different from all other articles, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{hangon}}, and also put a note on Talk:Aoife Mulholland saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 4 under General criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we ask you to follow these instructions. Erechtheus 23:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed deletion of Coding conventions

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Coding conventions, which you proposed for deletion, because I feel that this article should not be deleted from Wikipedia. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still feel the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! . I have passed it on to WIki project Computer science. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 13:20, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!

I know i have contested a couple of your prods in the past couple of days. However, there have been any I agree with! I gave you a shiny barnstar (on your main page). If you dont want it there, feel free to move it wherever you desire! Thanks again for your good work. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 14:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

It is an honour. How to express...hmmm...Politeness > Agreeement. Thanks for the encouragement. Obina 16:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reinrassig

Thanks for calling my attention to the page. I've made some edits, but will seek out more references. —Morning star 15:16, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Feast of Alvis

No problem. I would have probably done the same thing you did. Once the obvious consensus emerged, there was no reason not to just go ahead with the redirect. -- Kicking222 20:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Prairie Muffins

Thanks for correcting my tongue. Your extension of patience is appreciated. I really should have thought more carefully about how I was coming off. I had no reason to imply that you were remiss. I'm sorry for biting you, and I'll try to keep this in mind in the future. Peace, — coelacan talk — 18:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phil of the Future

Fine with me -- there is already an episode list page, and I don't mind if the individual episode pages are deleted. I was just working on the uncategorized pages project. NawlinWiki 21:43, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] www.zlinternational.utb.cz is notable

Dear Obina,

as I do not share your point of view concerning the deletion of the article about www.zlinternational.utb.cz and am sure that the article is notable - because their had been newspaper articles about it not only in the biggest Czech Newspaper (DNES) - I would like to know what shall I do? If the problem is, that the newspaper is in Czech language, can I attach an English translation to the site so that it is not deleted anymore?!

Thanks

Michi pb 08:31, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re-Action Recordings

Your article Re-Action Recordings needs some further attention. It lacks an indication of notability and needs to be wikilinked. Cordially, Askari Mark (Talk) 05:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes this article needs clean up. It is not my article - it is our article heh heh. My contribution was to add importance tag some time ago. :) It seems no one has found any references - I certainly coundn't. Time to prod.Obina 22:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Okay. Askari Mark (Talk) 22:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Agency Entries

Regarding the deletion of entries on Osbrink Talent Agency and one other - the only reason I added those was because they appeared as a red link in another article (list of talent agencies). I can add more if it stops them being deleted, although there is little to say, and I am of the opinion that editors shouldn't make red links if they don't want people to write them. I hope you understand my concern. I'm still quite new to the site so I'm not sure what to do. --Snakeman 07:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Viktor Vogel

so you sent me a message back in jan. about how to classify Viktor Vogel - commercial man, it is a german film, not a tv show or play. sorry for hitting you back so late. Mumbaki 04:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

got it thanks. it is always fine.Obina 19:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Magna Carta School

A tag has been placed on Magna Carta School, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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[edit] St. John Ambulance

Hi - there are no references in the article to back up the statement that the international organisation is internationally based in the UK. It is my understanding that the different branches in different countries operate quite independently of each other and that the organisation is a group of charities rather than a single charity. However, at the moment I cannot find much information online about how SJA is organised internationally; do you have any links to useful sources? --Kwekubo 00:13, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Just their own web page. For the purpose of a category, it seems helpful to include it in the UK based organisations - there is certainly a organisation in the UK with this name, and it seems to have started in the UK. The fact that it may also be a Hong Kong based organisation etc., does not take away the fact that they have a large UK head office. To me the category seems helpful and right.Obina 12:44, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Active user verification

Hello, Obina. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:WPNN, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on WP:WPNN. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Diez2 23:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Heh - Superman is on my userpage :)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thanks for contributing to my userpage - generosity calls for a barnstar for your trouble :). ck lostsword•T•C 16:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iowa Pre-Flight Seahawks

Yes, the discussion is fairly hard to follow, but I think you've got the gist of it. Originally, all of the articles were one, and it was, in my opinion, much too long. I have had doubts, though, about separating it. CK and I decided that once all of the information is present on each of the yearly articles, I'm going to temporarily merge them and we can see if that works. Iowa13 02:31, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merger proposed: Dove Canyon → Dove Canyon, California

It has been proposed to merge the content of Dove Canyon into Dove Canyon, California. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 10:10, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Excellent observation

Well done for noticing I'd put the wrong town on the image on Godley (hundred). Very observant. Thanks SuzanneKn 20:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC).

The Special Barnstar
Excellent attention to detail SuzanneKn 20:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Edward Budgen

A {{prod}} template has been added to the article Edward Budgen, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice explains why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you endorse deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please tag it with {{db-author}}. Dhartung | Talk 07:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] William, Count of Poitou

I noticed you changed the cathedral name. I added this name to the box. Then I noticed this cathedral was build in 1215 but this chap died in 1164. perhaps the old name was right. Any ideas?Obina 16:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The cathedral is much older than 1215. Parts date from the early 1000s. Unless you can find a primary (medieval) reference for it being called "Saint Maria" (which is not commonly used in france), I would keep the current recognized name, Our Lady/Notre-Dame. I strongly suspect this name was the original intent by a non-english or non-french editor.

[edit] Englefield Green

I know what you mean about the pic & the need for standardisation in the pages. Having looked at a number of pages, I felt that the general trend was to put the main picture for the town in the info box; which really seems quite sensible. The problem if they are on the left is it messes up the alignment with the contents box; therefore I feel that the best place is in the info box for the picture. I tend to visit a lot of the surrey pages and would gradually move the main pic to the info box. Therefore they would be the same. On some pages, the picture though is not a main pic but something obscure. Those pictures need to be further down the page.

It is actually quite surprising that the various counties seem to have a different system of info boxes. Surrey also does not have a main box at the bottom of the page which should be looked at too.

Anyway, I happy to anything that is the general consensus but I don't think there is one yet. Best wishes SuzanneKn 19:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes Aylesbury Vale is nice but the problem is that is does not have any text following the pic. As soon as there is text and a contents list things can get messy. Southampton is good. Many of Surrey settlements do not have a picture anyway so it won't take long to change them. I feel that photos need to have a higher status than after the intro as they can sum up a town. SuzanneKn 21:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Doll External Link

I saw it inappropriate as it seemed to fall under #12. Am I mistaken? -WarthogDemon 22:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

"normally" yes. Guideline not policy. But this particular page has 12 chapters or whatever on BJD and seems very helpful. It may not be a WP:RS, but for anyone interested it looks impressive. Is more than just a blog.Obina 22:06, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I always learn something new. Thanks! :) -WarthogDemon 22:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Denali Air (AfD)

I didn't write the article Denali Air, but I did do some editing that I feel should take it off the list of articles for deletion. Perhaps you'd like to see this for yourself. ----DanTD (talk) 04:35, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Your offer is tempting, and if I say yes, I think that some of the other Alaska-based airlines that aren't facing deletion should be added to this list, with links to their respected articles. My only concern is that somebody may suddenly decide that the others can't have pages. I have to admit, I never knew about tha article, until I found it in a list of uncategorized pages. After that, I tried to do what I could to keep it alive. ----DanTD (talk) 00:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)


Since nobody(including the original writer) is willing to do anything to improve the article by tomorrow, I accept your offer. Take it, and start the list. It's kind of sad to see the article trashed, but at least the information can be kept alive this way. ----DanTD (talk) 20:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll have you know, that I've already saved the latest version of the Denali Air article in a text file for this future list of Alaskan Airlines. ----DanTD (talk) 20:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Slight Warning

Since there's already an article on Alaska Airlines, I think this new page you suggested should combine the two names you offered. How about List of Airlines in Alaska? I'll use the redlinks you suggested as redirections. ----DanTD (talk) 15:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

The list was started. Fill it up. ----DanTD (talk) 15:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reversion

Starting a discussion before unilaterally reverting edits you don't approve of with would be much more constructive, especially when it's a matter of opinion, and not obvious vandalism. - JasonAQuest (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

The fact that people disagree with you doesn't mean they're ignoring you. And you've hardly hestitated so far to be "bold" in doing whatever you want and reverting whatever you disagree with. By the way, by unilaterally reverting my work on Peter Pan (sequels) (instead of discussing and/or editing), you threw out all the additional information I'd added. - JasonAQuest (talk) 12:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
No the fact that they ignore all input means they are ignoring you. You edit the way you like, so I do also. No problem.Obina (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
What input of yours have I ignored? Every time you've disagreed with something I suggested, I've refrained from doing it, and instead tried to discuss it. When I haven't understood you, I've asked for clarification. I've left the sequels and adaptations pages you created unmerged, even though your "input" against doing that has been little more than "that would not be better". When you expressed the opinion that the page would be too big, I agreed to support splitting it if that turned out to be true. I followed your suggestion to work on the sequels page (don't blame me for failing to read your mind about how you wanted that done). When you reverted that work, I left it that way so we could discuss it. Yes, the move from Peter Pan (literary character) was executed over your objections (which unfortunately weren't made on the page where the move was being discussed), but that was because nearly every one else who commented agreed it was appropriate. I'm listening; I just haven't found many of your vague objections so far to be persuasive. - JasonAQuest (talk) 16:18, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment on Category Redirect template

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[edit] AfD nomination of J Stalin

An article that you have been involved in editing, J Stalin, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/J Stalin (2nd nomination). Thank you. Icamepica (talk) 05:11, 25 February 2008 (UTC)